Deportivo Independiente Medellin - part IV (r) 2009

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  1. viscajunior

    viscajunior Member+

    Aug 3, 2008
    Club:
    Junior Barranquilla
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Re: Respuesta: Re: Deportivo Independiente Medellin - part IV (r) 2009

    DUude dude dude dude wait there!!! oscar perez is a goalie in mexico,roger torres in philadelphia union... you wanted to say OMAR PEREZ AND ROMAN TORRES.
     
  2. elviejomen

    elviejomen Member+

    Aug 3, 2007
    Hasbrouck Heights NJ
    Club:
    Junior Barranquilla
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Re: Respuesta: Re: Deportivo Independiente Medellin - part IV (r) 2009

    The kid is right... de 5 extrangeros malos 1 o 2 sobresalen....
     
  3. EstebanLugo

    EstebanLugo Member

    Mar 18, 2007
    N of your DB
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Respuesta: Re: Respuesta: Re: Deportivo Independiente Medellin - part IV (r) 2009

    But you can't start slagging off players you haven't even seen like Nacional's keeper or a player who's just played his first game like Dim's uruguayan kid only because they're young that's insane. You think there are 5 colombian u-17s better than them?? well then those local kids must EARN their playing time. And if the foreigners do suck then it's up to a compentent coach to find about that and bench them or leave them out.

    Again, I rather we bring 22-yr old argies who may suck at the beginning but could have some untapped potential eventually than 35-yr old washouts who just plain suck and you can't do nothing but pay their full contracts for the semester.
     
  4. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Re: Respuesta: Re: Respuesta: Re: Deportivo Independiente Medellin - part IV (r) 2009

    Ding ding....

    Compentant COACHES HHAHAHAHA...... not in Colombia man .....you said it yourself Compentant..... how can a coach be that if you fail you are just rewarded with a bigger club :)


    Completely Agree... Didn't see the DIM kid and hope he does well and agree prefer youth kids who didn't make it at a big name argie team than some washout in his 30s using our league as his last chance (Looking at Dept CAli and Nacional on that one)

    Nacionals best CB is that Banquest kid or whatever his name is. ALl their strikers are worse than their sub 20 kids

    Dept Cali got that Morel kid and they have 3 sub 17 starters that are all better than him
     
  5. viscajunior

    viscajunior Member+

    Aug 3, 2008
    Club:
    Junior Barranquilla
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Re: Respuesta: Re: Respuesta: Re: Deportivo Independiente Medellin - part IV (r) 2009

    Morel i think that is on the bench and the "kid" Maz played the game vs Cortulua and missed a goal in front... I dont know if he played yesterday.
     
  6. MetroChile

    MetroChile Member+

    Jan 13, 2001
    NJ; Valpo.
    Club:
    Santiago Wanderers
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    Re: Respuesta: Re: Respuesta: Re: Deportivo Independiente Medellin - part IV (r) 2009


    You're saying then that Dep. Cali has 3 players that 16 YO that are better than a guy who was starting regularly on an Argentine first team that was also not long ago fighting for the title...?
     
  7. efernandez9

    efernandez9 Member

    Jun 6, 1999
    Joe Pool Lake
    Re: Respuesta: Re: Respuesta: Re: Deportivo Independiente Medellin - part IV (r) 2009

    eso seria un MILAGRO--- DE SER MEDIO BUENOS o de buen pie, estarian de salida a europa, no parece nada alagador para un joven argie la liga colombiana, NO HAY quien le page lo que piden por ellos, por eso terminamos con los uqe ya han pasado por 2 o 3 ligas del mundo y son duenos de su pase.

    extrangeros del DIM: almeida- barahona- Maz (young one from uruguay)

    ayer 1-1....y el equipo nada que gusta:mad:
     
  8. pibe10

    pibe10 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 30, 2005
    Petach Tikva, Israel
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Crzd:

    1. Morel is one of the best foreigns, I spoke with an Argie friend of mine and like Metro said: He was starting regulary in a first division team in Argentina and impressed the coahces during the pre season. Give him some time, Omar Perez also had his tough times in Colombia.

    2. Our young CB is Stephon Barrientos and Nacional isn't good example for good foreings except Pezzuti, who started bad in Colombia but become a bit more stable lately (let's say that he's not our main problem).

    every league you have good foreigns and bad, you cannot pick good 100%, and you cannot crucify players after several matches, just like we don't want the fans abroad to crucify our players after several bad matches.
     
  9. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Yea but they get good ones we get crap ones....

    I think the only good players we get in Colombia are from Venezulea, Boliva or Panama because we get NT talent. Anything from Uruguay, Paraguay, Brazil or Argentina are hacks that failed in 5 leagues are free transfers and end up here. I am not against foriegn players but we need to be more selective either get NT talent from Central America or NTs not as good as ours,stars of Peru/Venezulea/Bolivan leagues/sub 20s or scout 2nd division players from better SA leagues.

    We fall into the spell that all euro leagues do this player is > because he is from argentina which is false
     
  10. efernandez9

    efernandez9 Member

    Jun 6, 1999
    Joe Pool Lake
    watch what you are saying...caziloko

    only from panama we get young prospects, via Possofutbol.com
    other wise no chance

    from venezuela and bolivia....they are as old as the argies you cry about. Back to the same answer: No money for a young talented futbol player from any other southamerican liga....

    just look at your friend from chico: caneo.....was he able to land a new deal after ONE good season? Nope...how old is he now? is the a force, he was 3 seasons ago?
     
  11. efernandez9

    efernandez9 Member

    Jun 6, 1999
    Joe Pool Lake
    baaal8

    que opinion y pasado trae el monito que salio a tapar hoy en el romelio de killa.

    B garcia....se le vio bien - solo la kgo al menospreciar el cobro de tiro libre de Gio H

    un 1-1 muy sufrido. con nada de juego y cada roce mal hecho
    un enanito que sacaron de nombre vladimir, le complico las cosas al panzer, un wevon que deja libre a gio Hdz....lo unico que tienen hoy en dia.:mad:

    y es como guevonada pedir cambio de DT....pues esta semana, me entere que victor Luna es que le metio la mano a los entrenamientos, para que el panzer y el chuzco sean los interpretes!! ASI NO SE PUEDE

    EL CORAJE que mostraban con LEO SE PERDIO...JUEGAN COMO UNAS NENAS Y SE DEJAN enganar de cualquier enano o arbitro!
     
  12. viscajunior

    viscajunior Member+

    Aug 3, 2008
    Club:
    Junior Barranquilla
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Como asi que G10 es lo unioc que tiene son tiros libres? yo estuve hoy en el Romelio y te puedo decir que G10 y Vladimir le dieron un baile a esa defensa del DIM, lastima que siempre falto la puntada final y Bacca ento en un bache. Menos mal ya el miercoles regresamos al Metropolitano.
     
  13. pibe10

    pibe10 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 30, 2005
    Petach Tikva, Israel
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    But you'll meet tu PAPA.... :D

    Junior without win in the last 6 matches, DIM without lose in the last 6 matches but this is not Leonel's team. It looks like that DIM can score only one goal per game and usually allow one back too. Hard to say if DIM will qualify but I don't think the have a chance to qualify for the final, they aren't good enough, at least from what I see. Still, we can also not forget that yesterday they played without 3 important players: Brecas, Choronta and Valencia.
     
  14. efernandez9

    efernandez9 Member

    Jun 6, 1999
    Joe Pool Lake
    1-1 vs junior con 10 pelaos- Independiente Medellin - part IV (r) 2009

    no
    lo unico que tiene junior hoy en dia es gio Hdz y sus wevas y rapidez para solucionar o desmarcarse

    lo del enanito....bahhhh nada que ver, de 20 faltas que cometio el DIM, 10 fueron piscinasos del pelao ese....deje que lo conoscan otros 3 arbitros menos bolsones que los de ayer y se acaba el show:eek:
     
  15. viscajunior

    viscajunior Member+

    Aug 3, 2008
    Club:
    Junior Barranquilla
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Re: 1-1 vs junior con 10 pelaos- Independiente Medellin - part IV (r) 2009

    ese enanito es un crack
     
  16. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Re: 1-1 vs junior con 10 pelaos- Independiente Medellin - part IV (r) 2009

    I loved when he tried to win a header.... I almost pooped my pants the other guy didn't even jump. how tall is he like 5'0?
     
  17. efernandez9

    efernandez9 Member

    Jun 6, 1999
    Joe Pool Lake
    Re: 1-1 vs junior con 10 pelaos- Independiente Medellin - part IV (r) 2009

    fix your post:eek:
     
  18. Baal88

    Baal88 Member+

    May 10, 2008
    Medellin
    Club:
    Independiente Medellin
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Pinta bien efer, ya habia tenido oportunidad de verlo tapar en copa y me habia parecido bueno... no es un fuera de serie, pero tiene suficiente para ser un buen suplente, todavia esta joven y tiene cosas que puede mejorar bastante sobre todo la colocacion, que se le noto mal en el gol de Junior (que aunq un golazo, la barrera no estaba bien parada y el tampoco), al menos mas que Bryan, ese si es un desastre.

    Le tengo mas fe a Juan Camilo Chaverra, aun es joven pero yo soy un creyente de que echar a los jugadores al ruedo a corta edad los ayuda a crecer mentalmente.

    Tambien tengo problemas para asimilar el estilo de Panzer... me parece tan amarrete, vos que pensas de este man?
     
  19. efernandez9

    efernandez9 Member

    Jun 6, 1999
    Joe Pool Lake
    DEL PANZER uno puede penzar dos cosas:

    lo mas facil de decir es que le quedo grande el sobrao que le dejo LEO, pues la garra y el orden del medio para arriva no se puede perder.
    Tambien es cierto que no solo Leo y los directivos, fallaron en buscar refuerzos duros para reemplazar la salida de vanegas y de jackson.....

    que los jovenes deberian de estar dando mas? alex arboleda, ganizita y pertuz....
    que el torito de becerril y el excali...no son soluciones, solo buenos suplentes hoy en dia, el panzer de estar haciendo su equipo deberia de reconocer falencias y poner gente de su confianza, pero nada de nada.

    6 sin perder, 6 goles a favor y 6 en contra es como hacer un pacto con el diablo:mad:


    666
     
  20. MetroChile

    MetroChile Member+

    Jan 13, 2001
    NJ; Valpo.
    Club:
    Santiago Wanderers
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    En el último número de la revista "World Soccer" hay un artículo sobre los jugadores jóvenes que más promesa mostraron durante la última Libertadores. Entre los jugadores mencionados está el central Leiton Jiménez. :cool:
     
  21. paisaboii

    paisaboii Member

    Nov 12, 2004
    nyc
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    "Ahora nos toca remar desde atrás para lograr la clasificación": 'Pánzer'

    En el DIM se protestó el penalti que el árbitro Roldán no pitó tras una falta de Pezzuti sobre Pardo. A pesar de la jugada polémica, Carvajal sigue preocupado por su delantera, la peor del campeonato.

    A pesar de crear opciones de gol en los arcos rivales, el Poderoso sigue sin concretar. Frente a Nacional en el clásico 263, tuvo cinco opciones claras para vencer a Pezzuti pero las redes siguen divorciadas con los atacantes del 'rojo'.

    Aunque tiene la segunda mejor defensa del campeonato con siete goles recibidos (a Santa Fe apenas le encajaron cinco), el equipo del 'Pánzer' Carvajal tiene la peor delantera con seis goles en ocho partidos disputados.

    http://www.futbolred.com/liga-posto...s-para-lograr-la-clasificacion-panzer/7902889

    y no niego q no era penalty
     
  22. RafaLarios

    RafaLarios Member+

    Oct 2, 2009
    Medellín
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    El que niegue ese penal le recomiendo ir al medico...

    lo que no se es como diablos el man dio norma de ventaja ahi, si el que venia detras era Arzuaga... eso fue más bien norma de Desventaja jejeje
     
  23. efernandez9

    efernandez9 Member

    Jun 6, 1999
    Joe Pool Lake
    ROBO EN Medellin - part IV (r) 2009

    patada voladora como las que tiraban los holandeses en el WC....

    hasta en la transmision decian que la ley de ventaja, se aplica pero al final de jugada se pita y se da amarilla o roja al infractor!!!

    se imagina el cambio de rumbo del partido sin Panzutti?
     
  24. pibe10

    pibe10 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 30, 2005
    Petach Tikva, Israel
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Efer, it could change the game for sure, just like other incidents that we suffered in other games which could change the game to our favor. 100% penalty, no doubt (I don't think it should be red), but one time you earn and one time you lose from the ref's mistakes. And in general, I think Roldan is one of the worst refs in Colombia, I cannot remember one game of him without controversial decision.
     
  25. efernandez9

    efernandez9 Member

    Jun 6, 1999
    Joe Pool Lake
    in recent interview: panzer just said what you did above!!

    one day we get a call, nnext game thay take one away!! and so on
    I do not think is mala leche or mafias that control ref. decisions.....human error.

    funny for Roldan, in the early part of the bradcast. he had sent a note, to the guy in the booth: please mention that my college graduation was this morning 'at 9am from Politecnico en ciencas deportivas'


    jjjjaaji
     

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