Democratic Failure Thread

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by MasterShake29, Mar 27, 2011.

  1. VFish

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    Boo, freakin’ hoo. Detroit was once the richest city in the nation, and despite that advantage its liberal leaders didn’t have the foresight to attract other industries. Whose fault it that?

    And beginning with the Model Cities Program, Detroit has been the beneficiary of every liberal urban planning scheme conceived, yet it is crumbling today . The city is a testament to the failure of these well intentioned but destructive programs. Add unions to the mix and you’ve got a complete disaster.


  2. VFish

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    Exactly.
  3. Claymore

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    Invisible hand of the something something...help me out here?
  4. VFish

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    You’re blaming Detroit’s decline on Adam Smith’s invisible hand? :D

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2y8Sx4B2Sk"]You keep using that word. - YouTube[/ame]

    Ju keep jusing dat phrase, I do not think dat phrase means what ju think it means.


  5. Kobranzilla

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    you are a simpleton...let's leave it at that since you are obviously incapable of understanding complex problems
  6. VFish

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    Why don't you explain Detroit's decay in terms a child can understand. That shouldn't be too difficult, should it?

    Through my simpleton view I see the richest city in the richest nation reduced to a shell in less than 50 years and I'd like to understand why? You're smart, I'm not, so explain it.
  7. Kobranzilla

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    you are a partisan hack who wishes to reduce everything to a simple red and blue...go figure it out yourself and let me know what you find

    since i grew up there I can critique your research and offer guidance on how to improve it

    good luck!
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    Once again, you don't know what's truly going as to why Detroit is the way it is.

    Kobran can confirm it, I can confirm as to what's really hurting Detroit. Comments like yours are similar to the ones every other writer/person (Regardless of their political leanings) makes despite not being to the city or only being there once or twice.
  9. VFish

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    Explain it then, I'll listen. Korban is either lazy or can't explain it.
  10. Kazuma

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    1. The Big Three.

    2. The city and the state being reliant on one industry. This city could be a huge influence in tech and medicine if they got their shit together. Instead, people are still clinging to the past. Goes for both parties.

    3. White flight and people leaving the city. Which leads to my next point...

    4. City vs. the Suburbs. There's a bitterness between the two.
  11. VFish

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    That is a ton of doom. Can the city overcome all this?
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    Pittsburgh did.
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    Tax cuts, austerity and relief from regulation.

    Oh yeah, and tort reform.

    Spruce the place right up...
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    Another largely Democratic, Union-centric city. Hmmmm.
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    You just short-circuited VFish's brain. How cruel!
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    I debated long and hard (at least 14 seconds!!!) on whether to put this in DFT or GOPFT, but it's a stunningly indictment of the failures of Obama's presidency from even before he announced his candidacy.

    The following chart is from Mitt Romney's jobsjobsJOBS Plan, and it quite clearly shows that Obama was a failure b4 even taking office:

    [​IMG]

    Psssst: Romney.... Dubbya was presidente back in 2007, 2008 and even into early 2009


    Copied from ThinkProgress here.
  17. Kobranzilla

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    I am not going to waste time arguing a claim that is inherently flawed and overly simplistic

    that you believe it is either an act of blind allegiance, or willful ignorance

    that you try and reduce a situation that is so complex to a blue state/red state thing shows how little you know about the situation...so yea...I have better things to do than engage with you on this...
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    Teabagger response: WHEN WILL OBAMA STOP BLAMING BUSH!!!!!!! derp derp.
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    Read the Kathy Giffords thread, the last 10-15 posts will explain to you why Obama is at fault for what happened in 2007. ;)
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  22. VFish

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    Detroit’s decay can be mesmerizingly beautiful:

    [​IMG]


    Sad, but mesmerizing.
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    Ruin porn is good like that.
  24. MasterShake29

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    Some Democrats (well, at least this one) don't respect free speech.

    The MTA is a public agency. A politician is demanding that an advertisement be removed because he objects to it.

    Luckily, he's being told (in politician speak) to go die in a fire.

  25. ceezmad

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    It happens, when atheist billboards started popping up, some politicians also called for their removal, it happens.

    Good for the MTA!

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