Anno had a very early red. Clear that it was given on the recommendation of Brian Poeschel. Keeper sent off for SFP (definitely not DOGSO, as two of the conditions weren't even close to met). I always wonder a bit about these. SFP for the level of force and the lateness seems correct. But on the other hand, we allow goalkeepers to absolutely clear out their opponents if they pick the ball off their feet first. Seems like we lack consistency of application here, and it basically stems from tradition. If that had been in the box and the keeper got his hand to the ball, we wouldn't have seen a penalty called; outside the area, with no touch, it's SFP. It sort of runs counter to the theory that we punish the nature of the tackle, not the result.
Re: 2011 (and possibly beyond) MLS referee assignments I am following the match on twitter so have seen nothing. Evidently he has also dismissed Ben Olsen after Olsen disputed a "strange substitution at the same time de guzman bought it level to 2-2." Not sure what went on there. Will be interested to see the match highlights.
Re: 2011 (and possibly beyond) MLS referee assignments When you see the highlights, I think you'll likely agree with the SFP decision. He hit him really hard and just flipped him over in mid-air. That said, it wasn't malicious or have any tell-tale signs of SFP; it was just late and he was coming with a lot of force. You can even see him tuck his leg in, in an attempt to not totally obliterate him once he realized he got beat to the ball--it was just too late. I don't knock the SFP call at all--it was the right call, even if it was just due to unfortunate timing, as it definitely endangered the safety of the opponent. It's just interesting when we juxtapose it against what we allow goalkeepers to get away with in the box.
Re: 2011 (and possibly beyond) MLS referee assignments DC made a sub for an injured player and Anno allowed TFC to restart play before the guy was 15 yards on to the field and before they were set to restart and of course, TFC scores on a blast while the guy is running on to the field. I've seen enough of Anno to know he is in way over his head at the MLS level.
Foul called. DC makes sub to replace injured player. The sub steps onto the field. Toronto immediately takes free kick and scores a goal before the sub can get anywhere near the play (he might have been two steps onto the field). DC team/bench go ballistic (keep in mind, they're already playing a man down). EDIT: I see someone beat me to it.
Re: 2011 (and possibly beyond) MLS referee assignments How many major errors does Jiggly Jasen Anno have to make before he stops getting MLS assignments? The red card was one of those "orange card" type things. And clearly the AR made that decision. So it's hard to blame him too much on that one. But the screwed up substitution thing was totally inexcusable. That was a grade 8 error in a U12 match. DC had an injured player off the field. So they got a sub up to go on in his place. And instead of holding up play to allow the sub into the game he waves the player on...AFTER the ball was already in play. Instead of making them take the kick over as any normal referee would do he allowed play to continue with the DC players totally unprepared. And the goal was scored. I am also baffled as to why there was no send off on the late PK that tied the match. Maybe a replay will explain it to me. It's a shame our FIFAs are being stolen away from MLS for these stupid Euro friendlies.
Re: 2011 (and possibly beyond) MLS referee assignments Anno is just horrible, in the center or as a 4th. Interjects himself into the game at the wrong times and looks the other way at the same wrong time. From what I've seen of some of the newer guys who get MLS games this year (because of the higher number of games, friendlies taking away guys) I'd rather see them than the usual Anno abortion or Terry Vaughn exhibition of poor game management.
Re: 2011 (and possibly beyond) MLS referee assignments Hmm.....I don' t know about this. As far as the tackle goes, I don't have a problem with the send off. It also happened in front of the AR, and that AR was rather emphatic about the severity of the tackle. I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt on that one. I don't think that AR makes that big of a decision unless he is positive beyond a doubt that what he just saw (once, at full speed, without the benefit of slow motion replay) was a sending off. Now for the sub/goal. The replay isn't all that good, but it was pretty clear to me that when the ball went out for the throw in, Anno visibly waved the sub on. There was no waiting for the player to come off, as he was already off for injury. Apparently, the sub didn't come on when waved on, and Anno again gesticulated for the sub to come on. There was really no reason to hold up the throw in. Had the sub followed the referee's instructions on the first throw in, he would have been closer to the play. The throw in goes to an attacker who is left alone, and no one steps up to him. Then he blasts a 30 yard shot that the GK should have had (IMO). That defender's positioning had nothing at all to do with the goal being scored. Once Olsen leaves the technical area to protest a call, he is on thin ice, but when he enters the field, he HAS to go. I'm surprised that the assistant who squared off with the 4th wasn't dismissed as well. As far as the PK, I definitely think he got the PK call right, but there were 2 defenders between the DC attacker and the goal when the foul occurred. No DOGSO there. I have absolutely no idea why Anno didn't caution the Toronto GK for one of the most aggressive, visible, provocative examples of dissent I have ever seen after he whistled it.
Re: 2011 (and possibly beyond) MLS referee assignments but there needs to be coordination between the 4O and the referee and allowing the sub onto the field with time to get into position before the restart ensues. The sub was ready and in the proper place. the 4O had the board up. It was a somewhat unusual situation since the player coming out of the match had already exited the field at the end line due to the injury. So it's quite possible, perhaps even likely that the player coming on (White) was a little unsure of whether he was being allowed into the game at that point. Ultimately the player entered the field after the ball was in play. The player who had to leave and the one replacing him were both center backs. Most certainly having him in his usual position would have made a difference. And the other players were also confused about what was going on too. The referee did not manage the situation correctly. I am guessing he thought he was just waving on the injured player, not that a sub was being made. Both players are tall African-American guys. there were also multiple injuries where Anno was at the other end of the field and simply refused to run down and assess the injury and try to usher him off the field quickly. IMHO that is a duty he really ought to be attending to. At least once the AR had to wander onto the field to intervene when it was clear the referee was not going to move from the other penalty area.
Re: 2011 (and possibly beyond) MLS referee assignments Anno appears somewhat overweight and maybe a bit out of shape. He's not that young and you will notice he moves a little less nimble than other refs.
Re: 2011 (and possibly beyond) MLS referee assignments Anno completely lost control of the game in the second half. He disgraced himself and his profession. He looked as lost as that obviously overweight guy who refereed a WPS game in 2009 between the Freedom and Boston when Ellertson just mugged players without penalty and Wambach retaliated by cutting down a Boston player, all without calls. Refs like Anno will get players injured.
Many talking points. 1. The Hamid sendoff. Because the ball was more than 5 yards away when contact was made, not sure about DOGSO. But it was a pretty hard foul, maybe he gave a red due to that. 2. Rongen was riding the ref like a rented mule over the 2nd TFC goal. Is it, in fact, a rule that on a sub the game can't restart until the sub is in position? If so, then that's a pretty fundamental mistake; that guy probably is going to get a month or more vacation from MLS. 3. Nobody made a big deal out of it, but for the life of me I can't figure out why Iro's foul on the PK wasn't a red card. I mean, the attacker is winding up for a shot from about 3 yards out. How is that not an obvious goal scoring situation????
No way it was DOGSO. It was SFP. The ball was nearly out of bounds and it wasn't even close to being toward goal. I think the SFP call is right, even though it's more of a late-timed careless tackle, because it definitely endangered the safety of the attacker. If that had been a defender, we wouldn't even think twice about a red. That said, it does shine a light on the traditional/inherent hypocrisy we have with goalkeeper challenges inside the area; if that had been in the penalty area and Hamid had even got a sliver of the ball, many refs would have been okay with the nature/force of the challenge. No rule, but tradition. This will be a very interesting discussion on this point. I think, with the 4 D's, the send off is impossible here. One of those situations where you might see a red in a lot of UEFA competitions (and probably definitely a red in La Liga). Just one of those things, and I know where you're coming from, but I never expected to see a red in an MLS match for this.
The LOTG state that the whistle is needed to restart play after a substitution. Anno never blew his whistle; ergo, play should have never restarted, and the goal never should have been scored.
I don't believe the substitution has to be in position. How many times have we seen a corner kick taken while the player from the defending team is running towards the goal? To me, Anno acted as if he was waving back an injured player. I think he got White confused for McDonald. He never looked to see where McDonald was on the pitch and it would be wrong for him to assume the substitution was for an injured player. He messed up.
Is Anno new? There were some other things going on that made it look like he didn't have a lot of control...for example in the 2nd half he let Frye take a goal kick with a 2nd ball on the field (in the box) and I thought it was odd when he gave TFC a throw after a DCU player about to take the throw (signalled by Anno for DCU) put the ball on the ground so a 2nd DCU player could take it (he took it immediately)...I guess it would have to be for a foul throw, but the throw looked good, can you switch the throw because of a delay? Red on Hamid was very harsh, IMHO (admittedly biased)...for me it wasn't DOGSO with the ball having been played so hard toward the endline and outside the box (combined distance and especially direction). The tackle itself was late and reckless, but there are 2 or 3 like that a game in MLS that never get red (studs were down, came from the front-side, was attempting, albeit poorly, to play the ball) let alone in the 6th minute or to a keeper. And the tv coverage was poor but I don't think White even got on the field before TFC took the throw on the restart...I certainly don't think you have to let the player get into his position, but as long as nobody is delaying (and the subbed out player was off the field, so it's not like he slow walked his way off) it is very unusual not to let him at least get in the vicinity of play.
I don't have a problem with that interpretation. But there are aLOT of challenges in MLS like that that don't draw red cards. I hope this is the new standard in the league, because MLS is too violent, IMO. As for the sub...a guy on the DC thread said that a DC player said (OK, we're down to about 4th hand here, so take it for what it's worth) that Anno said that the player was a forward, that's why he let the play go. Of course, White is a defender, not a forward. But maybe in Anno's mind, the player WAS in position because he thought it was Davies coming in (or something like that.) But it that's the case (big if) Anno showed horrible awareness. Why would DC, down a player and up a goal, sub in a forward for an injured defender? Makes no sense. As for Iro's foul not being a red...MassRef, I think what you're saying is that by USSF standard all the traffic in front of the goal negates the OGSO, but that in many European leagues that would warrant a red. Is that it? One last point...Frei looked like he was going to eat Anno's face for calling the PK. In most circumstances, that kind of ref abuse deserves a yellow, but I think Anno showed good judgment in not carding Frei. A yellow in that specific situation doesn't "buy" Anno anything. He's just made more people more angry.
If you change "would warrant" to "could be," that would be what I'm saying. There's definitely some interpretation and grey area here.
That's not part of the Laws. That's the FIFA Interpretation of the Laws, which is sorta like the international version of our ATR. The Laws themselves don't even mention a whistle. The Interpretations aren't binding and can't create a protestable situation by themselves.
At the match, I thought he somehow thought two Black guys were the same person. Even Archie Bunker wouldn't add Davies to the equation. As I said on the DC board, that entire exchange was bizarre. There were a few times during the match when I thought Anno was struggling with communication with the other refs. I believe the fourth official was signaling for a sub as well. I wasn't sure if Annon was relying on the headset and it wasn't working or something. Anno was definitely waving the injured player on not realizing it was supposed to be a substitution. It also looked like he was agitated by it all since he did not realize United was trying to bring in a sub.
WashPost soccer writer Steven Goff's blog includes the "official" response to questions about the substitution fiasco which looks like attempted butt-covering to me. The video doesn't lie. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...c-3/2011/08/07/gIQABXupzI_blog.html#pagebreak Is there a protest procedure in MLS? This seems like a misapplication of the substitution law that might actually stand a chance of being upheld in many leagues.
The first real situation at a high level game where I could see a protest working since the 2006 WC Playoff debacle. I don't expect anything to come of it.
