Countdown to a new coach

Discussion in 'AS Roma' started by DDR, May 24, 2012.

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Who do you WANT as the next coach of AS Roma?

Montella 3 vote(s) 6.4%
Villas Boas 13 vote(s) 27.7%
Zeman 20 vote(s) 42.6%
Bielsa 11 vote(s) 23.4%
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  1. DDR Moderator

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    Since the "Welcome home Montella" thread was a bit premature. Here is a new thread with a nice poll to go along with it.

    The question of the day is who do you want as the next coach. Now who do you believe will be the next coach.

    Having said that according to the latest articles Villas Boas is leading over Montella and Baldini and Sabatini are waiting on him to answer. Villas Boas is also looking at the Liverpool bench and it might come down to one of us landing him.

          
  2. SoCalYid Member+

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    Reports say Liverpool aren't considering AVB any more, or maybe they aren't him, who knows.
  3. Henchag Member+

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    I am ok with 3 of the 4 ( Montella, Zeman, Bielsa).No to AVB.
    If you want to try something different then normal in serie a, I like to see a manager with experience to go thru it.Not AVB or LE.Bielsa is ok.
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    Rumors in Tuttosport that Bielsa is now in the frame.
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  6. DDR Moderator

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    I really don't see how one can talk about a manager with experience and rule out Andre Villas Boas and in the same time put forward Montella.

    Villas Boas:
    - Started coaching in 1998
    - Worked with Mourinho on two winning teams
    - Saved Academia from relegation
    - Won the tripple with Porto
    - Coached Chelsea

    Montella:
    - Started coaching kids in 2010
    - Coached Roma for 3 months in 2011
    - Coached Catania

    One of them has a resume to show, the other doesn't
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  8. Henchag Member+

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    As far as am concerned AVB coaching career started with porto, barely 2 years.And his reputation was very hurt this year, and I am surprised top team like liverpool is willing to sign him as manager.

    Those things that u count for him as assistant , scout..can be counted with montella as player too working besides likes of spalletti & capello.
  9. DDR Moderator

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    - Andre Villas Boas was actually coach before going to work for Mourinho. He stopped and joined Mourinho.
    - There is no comparison between being a player and working directly for the coach.
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  11. DDR Moderator

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    That's not really what it says, very easy to take one line and interpret it. The original interview was much clearer in the need for a club to present strong and clear plan for the future.

    A better interpretation would have been him asking for players of a certain caliber.
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    That's why he rejected , according to his agent, the Liverpool offer since there is no strong and clear plan. Sabatini might go to Portugal today to offer a contract to AVB.

    About the salary, Abramovich overpiad (like he always does) but he got 8million pounds when they fired him.

  13. DDR Moderator

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    The interview from which Henchag's article pulls it's quote.



    Here the agents intent is very clear, it's not a question of money but of the clubs plans for the future.
  14. Romanista89 Member+

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    I really like AVB so he'd be my first choice.

    To be honest though, I'd be satisfied if we ended up with any one of those four coaches.
  15. DDR Moderator

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    Some are reporting that Bielsa will be the next coach with an announcement coming this weekend. They speak of a two year contract for 2,1 million with an option for a third year. They same Baldini personally dealt with him on the deal.

  16. Henchag Member+

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    Alot of you I feel didnt watch chelsea this year.AVB tried to fit squares into round holes much like luis enrique did with us this season.Basically our disastrous year this season, was the very same thing happening with AVB at chelsea. Same coaching problems.
    If he stayed, chelsea would have never gone past napoli..as he would have got killed on the counter attack( same problem as ours) like in leg 1.And if ever he faced barca, he would have got crushed with so high d line he tried to play ( much like us vs juve ). The same stubborn LE this year, who didnt try to change anything when things were not working...was the same with AVB at chelsea.He was very stubborn too.

    AVB = Another very bad year
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    AVB = LE 2.0


    Give us bielsa please then
  17. Henchag Member+

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    And btw, I dont think high d line doesnt work.It works, but it requires fast defenders which both roma & chelsea didnt have this year.Yet both LE & AVB insisted on it.
  18. DDR Moderator

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    That's a bunch of bs in my honest opinion.

    The failure at Chelsea was with Abramovich and not with Villas Boas. Abramovich last summer decided to hire Villas Boas because he wanted Chelsea to start playing a spectacular Barcelona-esque football. He was brought to recreate his Porto. However Chelsea was not ready to make such a transition. You had a group of players who had been playing together for years and were not prepared to start doing things differently. Villas Boas arrived at Chelsea a year to early. He should have arrived now when they finally won the CL and the old guard is going on to earn their last big bucks in other markets.

    Last season Chelsea needed a Ranieri type. Ranieri arrived at Roma and after some expirimenting he let the team do what they knew to do. Had Ranieri won the sucdetto that year it would have never been his. It would have belonged to Spalletti. In the same way that the Champions League in my opinion was won by the team Mourinho built and not by Di Matteo. I'll bet you anything Di Matteo does not go on to achieve anything substantial any time soon.

    Roma is not in the position that Chelsea was last season. The team Spalletti built is dead, and there is a black square that needs to be designed and built according to the idea of the management or the coach. We can be succesfull in any path we decide to go. Either with Villas Boas or a Montella type. It's just to have patience and bring in the pieces that are needed.

    If we go with Villas Boas we already have the base partially built. We can examine the problem areas and adjust them. For example it would be suicide to sign Villas Boas and not sign a defender who is extremelly fast and good in one on one situations.

    Plus Villas Boas football is much more suited to Italy. He plays a counter attacking game and we won't be sitting around with hours of useless possession. The only risk is the high defense, however the players have been playing with it and know the risks better plus we have the possibility to bring in the players needed to make it work better. And I don't want to hear about a high defensive line not working because one time does not still and football is always evolving even in slow and old Italy. Two Sacchi used to park his defensive halfway up the pitch and he pulled it off.

    And even Biesla plays with a high defense at times.
  19. DDR Moderator

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    And another thing really, we should not get our hopes up. This idea that Montella could come in and be our Conte is ridiculous. Conte and Allegri won because of the clubs they coached. In the last 20 years 18 titles have been divided between Milano and Torino.

    If not for all the humiliations I would have kept LE another year and keep trying to built towards his goal. We are not going to win the league anytime soon. We need to try and reach CL or EL and focus on building our stadium. Only with a stadium in use for several years can we hope to reach the stripes.
  20. DDR Moderator

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    Am I the only one who think Biesla and Villas Boas are equally risky?

    1 - Zeman
    2 - Villas Boas/Biesla
    3 - Montella
  21. Henchag Member+

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    This is where I ask, why didnt he adapt then?Such a great manager he is, why he didnt adapt? I mean, the "student" of mourinho, the guy who worked with him for so many years...why couldnt he implement mourinho style then on chelsea?
    I mean you give this much credit to him for working with mourinho, yet di matteo was far better in picking mourinho style for chelsea then AVB?????

    Also I am unsure you can credit chelsea success totally on mourinho, i believe there were many new players at chelsea this year from mourinho era like ramires, torres, bosingwa, ivanovic, cahill, david luis, meirless, mata, malouda etc...
  22. DDR Moderator

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    He tried to do what he was hired to do. He was not brough to adapt to the players wishes, he was brought to bring a certain type of play. The failure was not doubling down and bringing in players in January to help him out. Roma made the same mistake, they should have bought a defender in January and maybe Luis Enrique would have finished 4th.

    The core of that team and the mentality of it was instilled by Mourinho. Sure there were new players but in my opinion the coach had nothing to do with their success. To often people make coaches out to be geniuses. Look at Lippi after the World Cup, priased in his every move and yet his second tenure was a complete failure. Did he become stupid, did he lose his playbook? If the players don't perform for you then you can't win. The players decided they did not want Villas Boas and because of that he failed. As did Benitez when he went to Inter. On his first day he lined them up and told them they would do things differently. They told him no way.

    All we can do is speculate but I believe if Villas Boas went to Chelsea today when we serious rebuilding is on the horizon he might succede. I also think Villas Boas has more chance of succeding at Roma today than he did a year ago.
  23. Deini Member

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    So Unicredit are the ones who wants Montella. Montella even had diner with Fiorentino.

  24. DDR Moderator

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    I don't know if I can believe that. Fiorentino was in the Gazzetta siding with that leech Pippo Marra and critizing the management. However UniCredit owns 40% and Di Benedetto and co own 60%. So they have no power to interfere.

    If they are than the Americans had best be looking for someone to buy that remaining 40% because you can't have such a division. Baldini and Sabatini make these choices not a bank.
  25. Rellum Member

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    Bielsa for me. If they truly believe in the project you may as well get one of the guys that helped invent it. But I would be happy with anybody on that list bar Montella.
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