Condorcanqui, la U y el alianza seguiran siendo los equipos mas grandes del Peru por el resto de nuestras vidas y probablemente la de nuestros bisnietos. La idea de que un equipo salga de una reunion de directorio y de una notaria es muy bacan pero en la practica tiene todo en contra, los ejemplos sobran, donde esta el Defensor lima, el San Agustin?.... en este pais todo es efimero, cuando el billete se extingue, vuelan todos como golondrinas. Lo unico que perdura en el tiempo es la tradicion, lo que la gente siente en el pecho, mas alla de coyunturas. el ceviche, el pisco, el valsecito... Universitario de Deportes y Alianza Lima. La U y Alianza, Alianza y la U. le duela a quien le duela
La "U" and "AL" had to do something "right" back in their day to be where they are today, if we compare and look into teams like Lima Cricket FC, Sport Jose Galvez, Sport Inca, el Muni, these somehow didn't cut it and teams like Sport Boys couldn't keep up. Amusingly enough people still mock Sporting Cristal for having a weak support fan base even after all these years.
I still don't get it.. I read that who ever descends from la 2da division bajas a la Copa Peru.. pero si ganas Copa Peru te vas a primera???
I am with Condor in this argument. Ideally you would have a team that has history and which is invested on but, if not possible, I would prefer a economically sound team as opposed to a team with thousands of fans but poor. With persistence those clubs can become known and gain a fan base. They would be more beneficial to the NT than 'poor' clubs who would in the long run only affect the tournament and discredit our name internationally (wonder how many international players are going to come to AL and la U after hearing how much their players have been 'cabezeados'). Anyways, the loser of this Finalisima is going to segunda.
el futbol se a vuelto negocio, plata y seriedad. si no se ponen las pilas perderan hinchas en las nuevas generaciones a clubes como la San Martin o peor aun a clubes del extranjero, la cantidad de hinchas peruanos de equipos extranjeros va creciendo cada a~o. y la cantidad que les llega el futbol peruano tambien va creciendo es una verguenza que clubes como la San martin y JA le sacan la ************ dirigencialmente a estos dos gigantes y lo peor de todo es que los dirigentes usan esa misma ideologia "el ceviche, el pisco, el valsecito... Universitario de Deportes y Alianza Lima. La U y Alianza, Alianza y la U." o sea por ser grandes no tienen que cambiar
SC gained a massive foothold on their tricampeon run, but even back then European futbol was not readily available times have changed since then now people in Peru get futbol from all over, and get to see quality from all over, nothing like the days were AL and la U gained their popularity. its unknown territory from now on for peruvian clubs and the way I see it JA and SM in particularly are going about it the right way, SC is doing ok off the field and terribly on it while la U and AL seem to be run by a bunch of amateurs
Precisamente en eso están contando los dirigentes de la U y el AL. AL estuvo casi 20 años sin campeonar y su hinchaje no sufrió, hasta diría que creció.. El Muni es un libro de texto de la calamidad dirigencial peruana y lo van a ver 5 mil personas en el último nivel del fútbol peruano. Al ceviche y al pisco no hay que hacerle propaganda... Nadie aqui quiere condonar la actitud de directivos que rayan con lo delincuencial, yo estaba hablando justamente de lo positivo que son ejemplos como el Vallejo y la USMP, pero que necesitan consistencia atraves de los años porque no tienen raigambre popular. Ninguno de esos proyectos en el Peru ha pasado de cinco años, a eso iba. No se porque se trajo a la U a esta discusion cuando sabemos que esas son papas de otro costal. Eso no quiere decir que los hinchas de la U (y el AL) no soñemos con algún día tener una dirigencia como la de Vallejo, USMP o hay que decirlo, el Cristal
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Buena, tio Bronca. Lo estaba viendo por Ceviche TV con una imagen mas que horrenda. Pacifico esta que ataca. Juegan bien ambos equipos. Mejor que muchos partidos monses de 1era.
el Cusco tendra dos equipos en primera, sera bueno para el Cienciano que de por si esta con las justas?
Here's what I know: Deportivo Garcilaso is Cienciano's old rival, has 80+ years of history and is still playing in the Cusco league. Supposedly they even had more fans than Cienciano until the 2000s. In 2008, a businessman decides to invest a shitload of money on a team in Cusco so he invents the name "Real Garcilaso" and even uses Deportivo Garcilaso's light blue/white colors. In 2011, Real Garcilaso, the made-up team with the ripped-off name and colors, makes the 1st division.
wiki says a bunch of students from Inca Garcilaso de la Vega school founded the team http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_Garcilaso the official website says the same thing http://www.realgarcilaso.pe/ they seem to have their share of fans http://rgarcilaso.blogspot.com/
I'm not buying that crap. A group of 15 and 16-year-olds decide to make a team and 3 years later they're in 1st division and have better infrastructure than most 1st division teams? And how in the world are a bunch of high schoolers going to create so much fan support in 3 years?? I'll go with what Erick Osores has been saying. Their fans are actually Deportivo Garcialso fans who are either confused or don't mind rooting for a team that isn't theirs but kinda looks and sounds like them.
haters gonna hate fact is they assembled a team that earned their way to first div, and all the power to them not their fault the other Garcilaso was to useless to come up with a way to achieve the same thing elcomercio names this guy as being key Bajo la tutela de Julio Vázquez Cárdenas, próspero empresario cusqueño de artesanías, que tiene empresas en México, este equipo se maneja de manera casi profesional, por eso cuenta en su plantilla con jugadores que han militado en Primera como Paul Rodríguez, Antonio Serrano, Wilder Galliquio, Ramón Rodríguez, entre otros http://elcomercio.pe/deportes/13455...l-garcilaso-solo-uno-llegara-primera-division
I may be hating but I'm also telling the truth. And it is their fault that they chose to rip off the name and the colors of an existing team in order to absorb its support. But hey, that's a smart business decision! And we know that anything businesses do to line their pockets is great and wonderful and beyond critique. Yeah, they might do well and yeah, they did it legally but I still don't like it. It cheapens the game. That goes for USMP, Vallejo, Cobresol and all these other made up teams.
what cheapens the game is the crap that Muni, la U, Alianza, Sport Boys and all other traditional clubs put Peruvians through, as a crema fan have you not been embarrassed and saddened of what la U has done this year as a professional institution? tradition is important yes, but to maintain that tradition you have to be able to move with the times the world is changing keep up or join Ciclista Lima
You're comparing apples to oranges. The existence of made-up teams conjured up by businessmen has nothing to do with the ineptness of U's and Alianza's dirigentes. And the sad, embarrassing experience of Coopsol, Estudiantes de Medicina, Total Clean/Total Chalaco and others whose names I can't remember, should also question the benefit of made-up teams. That's the cheapness that these teams create. Some like USMP and maybe Vallejo might do well, others will fail miserably and disappear. Fan culture will turn to shit if more and more of these types of teams appear. People will end up cheering for products, not groups of people. That's pathetic.
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