Copa America 2011 - Build Mexico's squad

I must protest, I wasn't drunk... I was completely wasted! I don't even remember having that conversation hehehe, jk I don't have time to analyse other players but it has it's pros and cons, at least we won't be eliminated again from the Olympic tournament.

No tiene nada de marca en la media este equipo pero me gustaria verlo algun dia

[LINEUP-4-3-3]Carlos Vela, Chicharito, Nery Castillo, Andres Guardado, Jonathan, Gio Dos Santos, Hector Moreno, Maza Rodriguez, Rafa Marquez, Efrain Juarez, Ochoa [/LINEUP-4-3-3]

Pablo Barrera
Arellano

Super subs.

MOD NOTE:

Estamos hablando de la Sele que participara en la Copa America. Solo puedes tener 5 jugadores nacidos antes del 89. Y parece que Marquez se retira despues del Mundial.

mods note: Stay on topic or your posts will get deleted

--------------------------ochoa(85)-------------------------

----Brizuela(90)------N. Vidrio(89)--------Moreno(88)----Villalobos(91)-

-----Gio(89)-------Enriquez(90)--------Jonathan(90)---Guardado(86)-----

---------------Chicharo(88)-------------Vela(89) --------------

subs
Edgar Mejia(88)
Christian Perez(90)
Marco Fabian(89)
Edgar Pacheco(90)
Michel Vasquez(90)
Darvin Chavez(89)
Oswaldo Alanis(89)

[LINEUP-4-4-2][/LINEUP-4-4-2]Vela,Galvan,
Guardado,Leyva,Jona,Gio,
Crociani,Maza,Moreno,Osorio
Ochoa

[LINEUP-3-5-2]Vela, Cheech, Guardado, Araujo, Gio, Jonathan, Barrera, Nilo, Moreno, Juarez, Ochoa[/LINEUP-3-5-2]


Subs:
Enriquez, Leyva, Galvan, Magallon, Osorio, Ulises

Overage players should be:

GK: Ochoa (or Orozco if Ochoa moves to Europe)
DC: ??? (I would say one of Maza or Moreno but they will likely only play the GC)
DMC: Torrado and Castro are a bit long of tooth but my bet would be for one of those two
AMC: I would love to see Hobbit get some love here
FWD: Nerry

Ideally we would need to figure out what the GC squad will be before we can fill in the gaps for the CA as its entirely possible that even some of the eligible players like Vela and the Dos Santos brothers get only one of the two tournaments, if so which one should they play and who replaces them on the other squad. Same goes for any of the prospective overage players that ply their trade in Europe.

You all want Vela to miss another preseason?

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Seriously.

Now, assuming the Gold Cup is given its due importance next year (CC berth on the line) what are the possible scenarios?

A team to Gold Cup and B team to Copa America?

A mixture of both (A & B) for both tourneys?

Once we know for sure what stance the FMF is taking, It'd be easier to decide who goes where. My guess is that most of the Euros will play the Gold Cup, with a few players from the GC squad shifting over to the Copa squad.

At this point, it's hard to tell. Plus I'm hungover and on my way to some tacos de papa dorada.

I am cool with the Idea that players (based in Europe) should not be forced to play both tournaments, the FMF must decide what is more important.

Vela and Gio should be in the Copa America team and not in the Gold cup, yes that means missing a pre-season, so maybe consulting their respective teams would be a good idea. Both do not force them to play both.

I know that Comebol said 5 over age players, but they can only send 3 to the Olympics (none to qualification) so the FMF should only send 3 to Argentina (they will send 5).

as current champions, Mexico should put priority to the gold cup.

send vela to the gold cup and send him packing to arsenal after its over, bring in Nery for both tourneys

I made changes to the Original post by Various Styles

Gold cup Squad:

GK Luis Ernesto Michel (1979-07-21) (age 30)
GK Guillermo Ochoa (1985-07-13) (age 24)
GK Corona (?)


DF Paul Aguilar (1986-03-06) (age 24)
DF Efraín Juárez (1988-02-22) (age 22)
DF Jonny Magallón (1981-11-21) (age 28)
DF Rafael Márquez (1979-02-13) (age 31)
DF Ricardo Osorio (1980-03-30) (age 30)
DF Francisco J. Rodríguez (1981-10-20) (age 28)
DF Carlos Salcido (1980-04-02) (age 30)
DF Jorge Torres Nilo (1988-01-17) (age 22)

MF Israel Castro (1980-12-29) (age 29)
MF Noriega (25?)
MF Andrés Guardado (1986-09-28) (age 23)
MF Gerardo Torrado (1979-04-30) (age 31)
MF Pablo Barrera (1987-06-21) (age 22)
MF Hobbit (22?)

FW Adolfo Bautista (1979-05-15) (age 31)
FW Esqueda (22?)
FW Guillermo Franco (1976-11-03) (age 33)
FW Javier Hernández (1988-06-01) (age 21)
FW Alberto Medina (1983-05-29) (age 26)
FW DeNigris (27?)


Copa America Squad:

GK Orozco (age 23?)
GK the kid fom Chivas?
GK ?

DF Cesar Ibanez
DF Juan O'Campo
DF
DF
DF Héctor Moreno (age 22)
DF
DF
DF Christian Perez (is he a midfielder ?)


MF Giovani dos Santos (age 21)
MF Jonathan dos Santos (age 20)
MF Edgar Pacheco
MF Jorge Enriquez
MF
MF
MF

FW Michel Vasquez
FW Tony Lopez
FW Nava (the kid from Toluca)
FW Nery Castillo
FW Carlos Vela (age 21)

Help me out.
Highlighted red are the wild card players
was pacheco born in 89?
who would you add to the Sud America list?

Pacheco was born in 1990, Calderon could be another possilbility he was born in 89. If we choose to bring vela and gio as much as I would like to see them compete for a copa america title I think we should only use them for the gold cup. Winning this gold cup would mean we make it to the conderations cup 2013.

i want to see, reyna, esqueda, omar arellano, chore mejia, pato araujo worked in since were gonna need replacements for guys like blanco, torrado for 2014 world cup. copa america would be a good way to break them in along with guys like gio, vela, chicharo, moreno, nilo, aguilar, jonathan, guardado, maza, maybe nery.

Only 5 players born before 1989 can play in copa America. so not all the guys you named can go, they could go to the Gold cup.

reyna '84
esqueda '88
arellano '88
mejia '88
araujo '88
Moreno '88
Nio '88
Aguilar '86
Guardado '86
Juarez '88
Maza '81
Nery '84

the guys born in '88 can go

they will be 23 in 2011

Read the very first post. Only players from 89 and after can play.

Yes, but they will be 24 in 2012 when the Olympics are played.

That is why it is '89 and over.

Not sure about this, but my question is; are euro teams obligated to release players for the copa america? Specifically mexico since we are invited to the tourny.

Yes, it is during the summer so teams "have" to let them play. It may be different if the tournament was played during the season, then Invited teams may have problems getting players, but the South American teams would not have any Issue with getting the players.

Yes I know that it will be winter in Argentina, I meant to say July.

No they are not

it's a CONMEBOL tournament and Mexico are not members of it

they do have to release players for Gold Cup

Then we might not have our Euros?

its still in the off-season so if a player wants to play in it, and they already have their starting spot secured, they're usually free to go.