Concacaf Premier Division

Discussion in 'CONCACAF' started by kahkakew, Aug 18, 2009.

  1. erick Member

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    Excuses. I can name reasons on how the Mexican League and teams improve but that is "if" talk. Stick to reality, MLS has improved but they are still not in the level of the Mexican League.

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  2. drunkguy10 El Sancho

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    not happening. Mexico doesn't need it. it would be another tournament that helps only the MLS and in some cases it even hurts Mexico, like the concachampions. I think there should be a premier league for the Caribbean nations, because they would otherwise not be able to afford professional leagues. Otherwise, I dont see how Mexico benefits. We already have a strong 1st division, and a strong promotion division, which helps maintain quality levels. Mexico's infrastructure includes 4 hierarchical divisions, plus the regional amateur leauges. Why would Mexico want to join a concacaf Premier Division?
  3. aguimarães Member

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    This would be a good idea. Outside of the Hogges, Islanders, a couple of clubs in Jamaica, and the Trinidadian league, the region lacks the professionalism and this could help. Central America could use the help as well but Guatemala, Honduras, and Costa Rica might not agree to it.
  4. drunkguy10 El Sancho

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    I know Costa Rica and Honduras do not needed it. Any spots they might get would end up being similar to the concachampions, so there is no point.
  5. Mr. P Mosh Member+

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    México needs back to long seasons format and create a cup that could includ lower divisions clubs, as european leagues do... that would help for to improve the level on all divisions, and increase supporters to 1 "A" and lower divisions clubs... but well... we know that "Liguillas" produces a lot of money... and money is all FMF want (forgeting the sportive side, they must equilibrate both sides...) :mad:

    A premier league on caribbean countries seems a good idea, T&T and Jamaica big teams would have more competence between themselves... Also for small centroamerican countires as Nicaragua and Belize... but, Concacaf must help to improve that little leagues, better leagues = more competence = more supporters = more money = All win :D
  6. Andy Zilis Member

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    Agreed in part. MLS is not as good as the Mexican League and won't be anytime in the near future. That is the reality.

    But we're talking about a hypothetical league here, and the structural changes inherent on creating this hypothetical league would change the way current MLS teams operate almost beyond recognition. Unless of course this hypothetical league implements a relatively low salary cap, has a North American SuperDraft, lets newly promoted teams in on the Promotion (Expansion) Draft, and funnels team profits into a pool from which the entire hypothetical league benefits.

    Go ahead and interpret those suppositions as excuses if you want, but stop and think about it for a minute. There are reasons MLS is at the level of play it's at and there are even more reasons to believe that the level of play will not improve dramatically in the coming years. They don't all boil down to "the league sucks".
  7. MetroChile Member+

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    Dude, it's erick: you won't get a much better argument than "the league sucks" and "America is God-like". That's as deep as he will get.
  8. erick Member

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    Club America. :rolleyes:
  9. Popol Vuh Moderator

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    "A" mierdica. :p
  10. erick Member

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    :mad: You mean Club America, the best club in Mexico and one of the best in the Americas.
  11. MetroChile Member+

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    yadda yadda yadda.
  12. It's called FOOTBALL Member+

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    Yes it does. Any other way to put it is just excuse-making and sugarcoating. Grow a pair and admit to the inferiority of your league.

    You don't see Mexican fans giving excuse after excuse as to why our league isn't on par with the EPL. We could say "if a wealthy Arab or Russian bought our teams, then we'd have all the star footballers". "if we marketed to Asia and Africa as well, then we'd have multi-million dollar TV deals over there".

    Enough of the ifs. Face reality. Your league isn't worth watching or paying attention to in any way.
  13. ceezmad Member+

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    agree in all, forget concacaf 1st division, They would first need to create a Cetral america division (perhaps with out CR and Panama since they have strong leagues). and also a Caribbian division.

    also agree with you diablo, Copa Mexico should return and include teams from tercera, segunda y acenso. The winer could play againt the loser of apertura for the right to play in the concachampions.

    then the team with the most points in one year (like the supporters shield in MLS) should play the loser of the clausura championship for Mexico #4.

    shoot give Televisa the rights for those games if that would make them agree.
  14. aguimarães Member

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    Panama's league is still partly semi-pro. A Central American 1st division would definitely help them.
  15. It's called FOOTBALL Member+

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    Dumb idea. Keep it simple and leave the qualification as is. Fans dont have the time to follow all the extra qualification processes
  16. ceezmad Member+

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    You are probably right, there is a reason why Copa Mexico went away (lack of interest).

    I guess that is why I kind of like football in the USA, we still heve the US open cup and the team with the most points at the end of the regular season gets rewarded.
  17. MetroChile Member+

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    Was this Copa Mexico similar to the FA Cup in England? In other words, was it a cup comp. where all pro and some amateurs teams could participate?
  18. ceezmad Member+

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    I do not know for a fact, but I think only pro teams played.
  19. ceezmad Member+

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  20. Goforthekill Member

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    MLS would never agree to this, and it would be unfair to allow Central american teams and mexico to form their own league. a central american league would work though.

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