CONCACAF Champions League 2009-10

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  1. El Naranja Member+

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    Mr Chuck McFatBlazer made an announcement regarding next year's CCL, which, as of now, we have qualified for, thanks to Columbus making the MLS Cup.

    So what does this mean? Teams playing in CCL couldn't participate in SL...not unless it is moved to May or June OR there are different Mexican and MLS teams in SL.
          
  2. newtex Member+

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    Three points.

    1. We may have qualified for the 09-10 CCL if the USSF gets the same number of entries and if the same criteria is used.

    2. I like the fact that they are spreading out the CCL more. This new schedule would mean the six group stage games would be spread out over 10 weeks rather than the 7 weeks used this year.

    3. I agree that this probably means different teams in SuperLiga and the CCL next year. That has been hinted at in statements from MLS on scheduling issues.
  3. CeltTexan Member

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    Combine this with a possible change in the MLS set up as a whole and teams like us that went thru a grueling fixture congestion in '08 could have this hiccup resolved as soon as next March.

    Funny to be talking of CCL 2009 when we still have a group stage match with Firpo to play for '08 advancement.
  4. Westside Cosmo Member+

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    I'm sticking with "may have qualified" until we get a final word. I would normally say that MLS would want to have a Chicago team with Blanco in the CCL but they probably want them in Superliga to put more attention on that event.
  5. Art Vandaley Moderator

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    I dunno, they know that we put buts in the seats for superliga, do no be shocked if we end up there.
  6. dadcoachref BigSoccer Supporter

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    or both...:eek:
  7. DrLudicrous Member

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    We are officially in the next CCL, and have a chance to go straight to the group stage.

    http://www.forever-orange.com/2008/11/20/got-black-and-gold-for-sunday/
  8. DynaKat New Member

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    That confirms who I want to see win on Sunday.
  9. Art Vandaley Moderator

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  12. newtex Member+

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    CONCACAF says we are in the Group Stage:

    Red Bulls return New York to CONCACAF club championship


  13. Dre00 Member

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    Spectacular. Now just beat Firpo tomorrow.
  14. OrangeCajun Member

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    Next years spots should be the same as this year:

    USA 1- Columbus
    USA 2- Houston
    USA 3- New York
    USA 4- D.C. United
    Canada 1- Winner of the Canadian playoffs next summer
    Mexico 1- Apertura champion (the finals are on Dec. 11th and 14th)
    Mexico 2- Clausura champion (the finals are on May 27th and 30th)
    Mexico 3- Apertura runner up
    Mexico 4- Clausura runner up
    Costa Rica 1- winner of a playoff between the torneo Inveirno and Verano winners
    (the finals of the Inveirno are Dec. 14th and 21st)
    Costa Rica 2- loser of the playoff
    El Salvador 1- winner of a playoff between the torneo Apertura and Clausura winners
    El Salvador 2- loser of the playoff
    Guatemala 1- as above
    Guatemala 2- as above
    Honduras 1- as above
    Honduras 2- as above
    Panama 1- as above
    Panama 2- as above
    Nicaragua 1- winner of a playoff between the torneo Apertura and Clausura winners
    Belize 1- 2008/2009 league champion
    Caribbean 1- 1st place in the CFU championship (final and third place game on Dec. 14th)
    Caribbean 2- 2nd place in the CFU championship
    Caribbean 3- 3rd place in the CFU championship


    The play-in round starts the last week of July, and the group stages start in August this year.
  15. newtex Member+

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    I agree. It does look like all the slots will stay the same for next year's tournament.

    After that we may see some adjustment based on results but maybe not for a couple more years.
  16. OrangeCajun Member

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    I forgot to note, that if a Central American team wins both the Apertura and Clausura tournaments, then they are that countries #1, and the 2nd best team from the CLAUSURA will be the #2. (with the exception of Nicaragua of course.)
  17. OrangeCajun Member

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    Both Toluca and Cruz Azul secured spots in the 09/10 Champions League by advancing to the Mexican apertura final. The winner of that series will be seeded as Mexico #1, and the loser will be seeded as Mexico #3.
  18. brahmafutbol Member+

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    ....and I know some Cruz Azul/Dynamo fans that may have to make a big decision next year. :rolleyes:
  19. OrangeCajun Member

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    Mexican and panamanian spots updated for last weekends action:


    USA 1- Columbus
    USA 2- Houston

    USA 3- New York
    USA 4- D.C. United
    Canada 1- Winner of the Canadian playoffs next summer
    Mexico 1- Toluca or Cruz Azul (the finals are on Dec. 11th and 14th)
    Mexico 2- Clausura champion (the finals are on May 27th and 30th)
    Mexico 3- Toluca or Cruz Azul
    Mexico 4- Clausura runner up
    Costa Rica 1- winner of a playoff between the torneo Inveirno and Verano winners
    (the finals of the Inveirno are Dec. 14th and 21st)
    Costa Rica 2- loser of the playoff
    El Salvador 1- winner of a playoff between the torneo Apertura and Clausura winners
    El Salvador 2- loser of the playoff
    Guatemala 1- as above
    Guatemala 2- as above
    Honduras 1- as above
    Honduras 2- as above
    Panama 1- Arabe Unido or clausura winner
    Panama 2- Arabe Unido or clausura winner
    Nicaragua 1- winner of a playoff between the torneo Apertura and Clausura winners
    Belize 1- 2008/2009 league champion
    Caribbean 1- 1st place in the CFU championship (final and third place game on Dec. 14th)
    Caribbean 2- 2nd place in the CFU championship
    Caribbean 3- 3rd place in the CFU championship
  20. 3VIL L33T New Member

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    how did DCU get the 4th US spot?

    Chicago had more points
  21. gold4278 Member

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    The playoffs no longer exist for Central American teams as the 1 & 2 slots are now decided by tiebreakers (First is aggregrate points over both seasons, then goal difference, then goals scored). http://concacaf.com/view_article.aspx?id=4553
  22. gold4278 Member

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    It also interesting that the winner of the tournament (if they are not one of the qualifying teams) does not get a slot for 2009.
  23. El Naranja Member+

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    US spots

    #1 - MLS Cup Winner
    #2 - SS Runner Up
    #3 - USOC Winner
    #4 - MLS Cup Runner-Up

    DC won the USOC
  24. OrangeCajun Member

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    Correct. I forgot to change that:

    USA 1- Columbus
    USA 2- Houston
    USA 3- New York

    USA 4- D.C. United
    Canada 1- Winner of the Canadian playoffs next summer
    Mexico 1- Toluca or Cruz Azul (the finals are on Dec. 11th and 14th)
    Mexico 2- Clausura champion (the finals are on May 27th and 30th)
    Mexico 3- Toluca or Cruz Azul
    Mexico 4- Clausura runner up
    Costa Rica 1- invierno or verano winner (the finals of the Inveirno are Dec. 14th and 21st)
    Costa Rica 2- invierno or verano winner
    El Salvador 1- apertura or clausura winner
    El Salvador 2- apertura or clausura winner
    Guatemala 1- apertura or clausura winner
    Guatemala 2- apertura or clausura winner
    Honduras 1- apertura or clausura winner
    Honduras 2- apertura or clausura winner
    Panama 1- Arabe Unido or clausura winner
    Panama 2- Arabe Unido or clausura winner
    Nicaragua 1- apertura or clausura winner
    Belize 1- 2008/2009 league champion
    Caribbean 1- 1st place in the CFU championship (final and third place game on Dec. 14th)
    Caribbean 2- 2nd place in the CFU championship
    Caribbean 3- 3rd place in the CFU championship
  25. Hungryjack Member+

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    I suppose Pachuca was the first casualty of this policy.

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