Commissioner: "MLS cup final will not be held at Buck Shaw"

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  1. mjlee22

    mjlee22 Quake & Landon fan

    Nov 24, 2003
    near Palo Alto, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If you we're Lew Wolff, wouldn't you recommend the Oakland Coliseum? Or is that already ruled out?

    Sucks tho, but don't forget, MLS claimed that we don't have the necessary media support (or porta Pottys) at buck shaw.
     
  2. Via_Chicago

    Via_Chicago Member

    Apr 1, 2004
    Bay Area, California
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    New England Revolution hosted the 2002 MLS Cup Final and also played against LA in that game. They sold out to the tune of ~60k. We would sell out.
     
  3. FUAEG

    FUAEG Member+

    Oct 18, 2005
    San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Raiders play the next day. They might not allow it.
     
  4. Earthshaker

    Earthshaker BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 12, 2005
    The hills above town
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How about we wait to see if we make it to the finals, and then worry about it? Just sayin.
     
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  5. athletics68

    athletics68 Member+

    Dec 12, 2006
    San Diego & San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Why so we can lose? No thanks. Game should be at Buck Shaw. Period.
     
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  6. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Because that's not how it works in reality. They will need to have a plan in the can ready to go the moment they win the conference final. Scrambling to figure out a venue on Nov. 19 would be disastrous. Most likely they want to be selling tickets before the Quakes actually qualify, just like they are selling tickets now for an uncertain conference final.
     
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  7. athletics68

    athletics68 Member+

    Dec 12, 2006
    San Diego & San Jose
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    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Seems to be the way they're leaning reading the article. And the likely way it'll fall since Stanford would have to win out against both Oregon and Oregon State to host the Pac 12 title game (which isn't likely at this point). Which frankly of the non-Buck Shaw options is the only one that I find at all acceptable. San Francisco is kryptonite to us. Oakland is a shitty stadium for the sports it WAS designed for never mind soccer. And Spartan with it's extra narrow field and fake grass isn't really all that great of an option.
     
  8. athletics68

    athletics68 Member+

    Dec 12, 2006
    San Diego & San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Oakland is already ruled out. The Raiders play the next day so they'll already have it in football config for the game. That and their field will be a mess by Dec 1. Not to mention it's too damn far from San Jose (which is also the problem of the SF stadiums).
     
  9. AlexLallos

    AlexLallos Member

    Sep 5, 2000
    Monterey CA
    I did not read one word of this garbage other than the Subject Line.. Two words F**k that... (sorry kids)
     
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  10. Socarchist

    Socarchist Member+

    Feb 21, 2010
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    Seating capacity at Kezar is also about 10,000. So, not an option.
     
  11. Earthshaker

    Earthshaker BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 12, 2005
    The hills above town
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's them needing to worry about it, not us. ;)
     
  12. bsman

    bsman Member+

    May 30, 2001
    MadCity
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    San Jose Earthquakes
    Don Garber will continue to suffer from irritable bowel syndrome until the Quakes are out of the playoffs. I'm hoping that his annoying shenanigans this season, his mendacity, his obvious favoritism and his endless equivocation on a variety of issues will have finally demonstrated to the owners that he's unfit for his job. We need a new commissioner who is not buried neck deep in Uncle Phil's crack...
     
  13. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
    Club:
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    Quoted for emphasis.
     
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  14. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
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    No, this is entirely the fault of MLS for adopting a Cup final venue rule this season that it had no intention of honoring if San Jose qualified.

    We can fault the Quakes for not moving faster on their stadium on its own terms, but the league's adoption of its everyone-but-San Jose rule was unforeseeable.

    The league should have waited to adopt this new rule until the Quakes new stadium opens and every league participant could be treated equitably.
     
  15. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
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    The Quakes' coaches and players feel differently. They would vote overwhelmingly to play the final at Buck Shaw.
     
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  16. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
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    Otherwise, it would just be dandy. LOL. :)

    There are several deficiencies to Kezar before you even get to seating capactity,
     
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  17. markmcf8

    markmcf8 Member+

    Oct 18, 1999
    Vancouver, WA, USA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It hasn't been a baseball field for years. It's the best and only Soccer Specific Stadium in the bay area. Granted, it's still not good enough, but it has an excellent pitch that is reasonably large. The fans are extremely close to the action. In that regard it's great!

    But, doesn't have enough seats.The bathrooms are awful. The food concessions are weak.

    From that point of view, it blows.

    BUT, we haven't lost there since August of 2011. In that regard, it's the best stadium in the known universe.

    If we play at Stanferd, the amenities part will be great, but the pitch is too small, which does not help our game.

    If we play at Spartan, the pitch is even smaller.

    I wish there were a better option, but there isn't.

    GO QUAKES!!

    - Mark
     
  18. Earthshaker

    Earthshaker BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 12, 2005
    The hills above town
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Won 9, tied 6, lost 0.

    Have only played one playoff opponent there since Aug. 11, which was the 2-2 tie against LA.
     
  19. Robdog

    Robdog Member+

    Oct 20, 2002
    Rancho Cordova, Cali
    So if Spartan Stadium isn't an option, is PacBell Park (or whatever it is called these days) a viable option?
     
  20. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  21. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It should also be pointed out that the headline in the OP is not actually a quote of anything Garber said. The strongest statement that he actually said is “We have made the decision that we would like to move the game out of the stadium . . ." Which is pretty strong, but is not an unequivocal ruling out of Buck Shaw if none of the other options work out.
     
  22. Socarchist

    Socarchist Member+

    Feb 21, 2010
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    As ridiculous as is seems, the venue for a potential MLS Cup hosted by the Earthquakes depends on the results for the Stanford football (throwball) team. If Stanford beats Oregon State on November 10th and Oregon on November 17th, then Stanford Stadium is surely out as a potential host, and a Bay Area MLS Cup would be at Spartan Stadium.
    What happens if Stanford Football wins at home this Saturday (and the Quakes are still alive in the MLS Cup playoffs)? Can the FO wait until the result of the football game on November 17th and root against Stanford vs. Oregon so that Stanford Stadium can host a potential MLS Cup? Or do they have to pull the pin and announce Spartan Stadium as the potential host if Stanford beats Oregon State on the 10th?
    Only if ownership hadn't dragged its feet and the new Quakes stadium had already been built. Unfortunately, reality trumps fantasy every time.
     
  23. athletics68

    athletics68 Member+

    Dec 12, 2006
    San Diego & San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Only if the Quakes want to lose and the fans on the lower deck don't want to see the field. That and the team isn't considering it. Which isn't surprising given the animosity between Wolff and the Giants owners.
     
  24. Earthshaker

    Earthshaker BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 12, 2005
    The hills above town
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The "animosity" between Wolff and the Giants didn't stop them having the game there earlier this year against Houston. Not saying I want it there, just pointing out that the "animosity" between Wolff and the Giants is likely not the reason the team isn't considering it.
     
  25. Robdog

    Robdog Member+

    Oct 20, 2002
    Rancho Cordova, Cali
    Well I have faith in my Alma Mater (Univ of Oregon) will come through. The Ducks are doing big things & The Cardinal are just a speed bump for The Ducks. I will predict the Quakes will host the MLS Cup in Palo Alto.
     

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