It would be typical rapids luck that after all this they get busted for tampering by not getting permission before approaching Fraser.
Yeah, I think the only 'source' for Fraser and Spencer being the leading candidates was Ives original piece. Has anyone else actually said either was a candidate based on information they received outside of reading Ives original piece? If not, then it is likely he just thought "Fraser and Spencer are former head coaches that are former Rapids players, I'll name them as leading candidates." Edit: Kind of like some fans taking Burgundy Wave's suggestion of Dely Valdes as a rumor and not a suggestion.
(from the Ives quote). "Rules to follow in this league"??? Ha-Ha-Ha-Ha-Ha! I can't believe someone from a major market said that. Given the banter about OP the last week or so, I find it hard to understand what rule he must be talking about. (getting off my soapbox) rod.
I'm still holding out hope that Mr Slacks is right that we will like Plan B, eventhough Mr. Slacks just oments before said the Rapids were caught off guard by OP's wish to leave. But here's to hope!
Evidently we're searching for a new assistant coach, too: http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/artic...apids-assistant-wilmer-cabrera-new-head-coach
Given that Ives's mention of Robin Fraser appears to have been based on very thin evidence, perhaps his mention of Spencer is just as thing. I'm hoping it's not Spencer. Jesse Marsch seems possible, as does Denis Hamlett. And it could always just end up being Bravo after all.
Well I've heard it (as a long shot) from more than just Burgundy Wave, but not from a source good enough that anyone here would consider it more than a suggestion. I think its slightly higher than just something fans want to see, but not much more than that.
Please stop saying this (anyone). It is just one of the worst possible outcomes IMO. I simply don't want to hear it anymore :-( Edit: If he needs to be interim coach so the Rapids can have time to find a * good * coach, then I can live with that.
I really don't see us getting an experienced head coach unless its someone like Fraser who "failed" first go round.
Just curious where the Anti-Bravo as coach sentiment is rooted? Marsh is seemingly acceptable without a resume to support it. And until he wasn't successful in Portland, so was Spencer. Even Fraser seems to be acceptable, again without a successful supporting resume.
At the rate the Rapids are going, it might be easier to hire a new assistant coach first. Then, make him the new interim coach.
Except they've all been assistant coaches or former head coaches recently. Bravo hasn't coached since 2008. BTW, when I searched for Bravo to get that date the similar Google searches brought up Pareja, Smith, Pablo, 'Celo, and Charles Eloundou(???).
Thanks. Is that really a good reason though? Not coaching for a while is worse then being a recent unsuccessful coach? Wait, actually, that sounds like most sports
I don't think the negativity regarding John Spencer is valid. Of course it's all speculation and we can't see into the future, rather can only hypothesize about it based on what we know has happened in the past. Spencer was a respected Rapids player that always gave a great effort in games, he has been around the MLS for a while as assistant in Houston and head coach in Portland. I think he could be successful if he got the Rapids job. He's a charismatic and passionate guy who can inspire players to put in an honest, professional effort. I understand that most of the complaints would be the direct style of play (read: not "the beautiful game" style) of a 4-4-2 system that his previous teams preferred, and maybe his connection to the latino players on our roster would be less since he is Scottish. Those points don't matter so much in my opinion. A good coach will communicate well with players of different nationalities and a good coach will adapt tactics based on a number of factors (such as skills of his players) to help the team be successful. Well, like I said in a previous post, I think this young and motivated team could be successful with a number of head coaching possibilities. I don't believe that the Rapids have to "break the bank" with a head coach signing. Heck, maybe they will go with an inexperienced coach that they believe can do the job and could blossom into a "Jason Kreis". I guess only time will tell. I do hope we get a person with a sense of loyalty, hard work ethic and ability to get the most out of his players.
Why would you say Marsch was unsuccessful? The Impact did not make the playoffs, but they were also a first year expansion team and were not horrible (12th of 19). They also showed a good passing game which presumably is important to the FO. I don't know that he'd be a good choice for a coach, but that seems like a better resume than a guy who doesn't coach at all. And people keep bringing up Spencer, who here wants him, rather than is just passing along the rumor that he's a candidate?
[ Everything you mentioned were reasons (supposedly) that Spencer was canned in Portland. He could not adapt tactically to his team's strengths. He stuck to his guns; to what he knows. Again, supposedly, his communication with the squad was pretty shotty and alienating. I don't know if that would carry over to CO but it would certainly be a concern and even possibly a red-flag. I like Spencer but the current squad has some similar elements to his squad in Portland. I don't want a repeat of what happened in Portland. The Rapids took two giant steps forward last year. They can't afford to go backwards. I'm not advocating for a coach identical to OP, I'm looking for a coach that can maintain the momentum we have and to, quite frankly, take it up a notch. I just have my doubts if Spencer would be the right man for this team. I do think he is a good fit somewhere in MLS -- I really do -- but not here. If you are wanting to know, my first choice would have been Cabrera but obviously that's not an option. The rapids are in a difficult spot. It sucks. I just pray they make the right decision and keep the momentum they have.
Perhaps the Dallas/Rapids supposed negotiations include an announcement of coaches for *both* teams as well as that compensation package we are getting for OP...
You guys need to take a page from the Bob Kraft playbook and hire a former player straight from the broadcast booth.....
Yeah watch it be some top assistant like Kerry Zavagnin (SKC), Amos Magee (Port.), Wade Barrett and Steve Ralston (Hou), Curt Onalfo (LAG), Brian Schmetzer and Enza Hendrickson (Sea). Of course Fraser's been mentoned but according to Petke he has not been approached. I could be envision, for some reason, going for one of these "outta the blue" hires. I'm not for or against it, BTW. I just want someone who can maintain and enhance the momentum we have.
I'm not sure what is meant by "without the resume to support it". I realize Jesse Marsh didn't win the MLS Cup while head coach of Montreal but he did a decent job. He got 12 wins with an expansion team. Pareja last year got 14 wins with _his_ team. While I'm not sold on Fraser, I'm going to hold the MLS disaster known as Chivas USA against him. Maybe part of it is that we're factoring in a guesstimate of what the Rapids FO is willing to pay a coach. If we're all guessing correctly, the FO probably isn't willing to pay enough to attract a Yallop-type coach let alone someone decent from overseas.
http://www.coloradorapids.com/news/...-bring-john-metgod-consultant-technical-staff Anyone know if this could be the future coach? rod.
And perhaps not enough for Jesse Marsh either. I just can't help this pit-in-my-stomach feeling that the RFO is looking for a deal in an unproven manager. Granted, that's not always a bad thing but it can be risky. With this newly built team, could be a risk worth not taking IMO.