Circle of Honor 2014 Nominees released

I didn't mean the idea of the HOF was ridiculous, I was referring more to the methods they use to vote players in.

 

I think I'd like them to do it every 5 years instead of every year.

 

Oh Lord, I hope we're not diluting this by awarding it every year.

 

I guess players like Stern John and Brad Friedel - players who in their brief Crew careers made Best XI teams and won other awards - will simply have to go into the Bank Account of Honor: Players who are probably among the organization's all-time Best XI (or at least all-time gameday-18) and were good enough to be sold but not long enough servants to be in the Circle of Honor.

 

The baseball HOF is a joke now because of the writers. They talk about the integrity of the game to keep the sterorid players out but leave a player like Dale Murphy who did everything right off their ballet every year because he didn't hit 1 more hr. ******** the baseball HOF.

 

Brad Friedel is a legendary soccer player who played for The Crew, albeit a relatively small number of games.
Mike Clark is a mediocre player who played many games for the Crew.

You can make arguements for either one, surely. However, I dont understand how you can be incredulous about one of those, and so adamant about the other?

I came in at the end of Clark, and was not overly impressed. Many of my friends absolutely abhor him.

 

Why is Fitzgerald NOT on the list?

 

Why would they abhor him. That makes no sense. But what a lot of us are going on is the the reputation Clark had amoung the folks he played with. Ask 'em. The ones that went into coaching used to use him as the *definition* of a Crew player. The others felt the same. He was always the first guy mentioned. That's why. Now is he as good as the players in the current league? No. But he was a pioneer. He's one of the reasons the current guys have a league and jobs in the US in this day and age. And he was one of the most solid defenders of his day. Oh, yeah, and he was selected to two All Star games.

 

Mike Clark was not the greatest player we've ever had, but calling him mediocre is just plain stupid.

 

Considering each every person this board has been called stupid for an having an opinion another person did not agree with, I assume you accept the fact then that you are indeed stupid as well, so welcome to the club!

In my opinion, Clark was mediocre. In other peoples opinion, Clark was bad. In some people's mind, Clark was the greatest thing that happen to MLS. He is the trailblazer for Tony Tchani's of the world.

Mr Gilbert, you skipped right past the point....Brad Freidel was just as accomplished even with the short time with The Crew (MLS Best XI and MLS Goalkeeper of the year) before he went on to even more acclaim Internationally, but that is not even worthy of "being in the conversation"?

There are lots of players who are good guys, who are solid players..who were around at the beginning of the league that made it possible for others, who were all stars at a time where the total talent in the league was considered by many less than what it is today).

Doesn't resonate "Ring of Honor" to me..

 

Thanks!

I don't really care about you having the opinion, maybe it would be better to say I find that opinion crazy.

 

Can we just go ahead and start the thread and get these nomination discussions going now?

 

This is one of the most obnoxious, sophomoric, TFC things I have ever read on the Crew boards. Clark never was a world beater and no one confused him with Roberto Carlos. He took a meager salary for a pro soccer player and gave eight great years to this team. When people look at the early years of MLS, Clark was the epitome of what Columbus Crew meant. I know he was not the greatest defender to ever play but he was intense, hard working, a step above the competition at the time and most importantly, he was ours. Few have dedicated themselves to the club the way Clark did and he was a class act the entire way. A trailblazer for Tchani? Learn some respect before you make an ass out of yourself again.

 

Name one. Please. As far as Friedel is concerned, @KCbus has spoken far more eloqently than I could.

And BTW, if you are going to make an appeal to authority, though often a logical fallacy, it might be nice for the authorities you are appealing to actually *have* some authority. Or to actually exist.

 

I would say RW but I think we should wait a year or two. So for me it would be Frankie.

 

I remember one of those was a breathtaking team goal with about 4 one-touch passes with Gavin and Lenhart - possibly the nicest goal I've seen live. Sadly I can't find it on youtube...

 

Clark fanboys coming out of the woodwork.

 

I will admit to that (not that anyone who knows me didn't already know that). But I knew him too, back in the day (when you really could get to know players before they went all NFL on us). One of my favorite shirts in my game-worn collection is his All Star Game jersey....

 

Well his fan club probably is a bit more popular than the one Geeg and me still have going for Ross Paule.

 

And my wife has one of his shirts..... Miss the guy. He was a class act. First time I met Ross I actually said somthing like "it's great to have you on the Crew because you were always a pain in the *ss to play against". He laughed. I've always been thankful that what happened to him did *not* happen to Chad.

 

Not me. Clark was durable but he's a compiler type player, ie someone whose career stats look reasonably good because he played a long time. At his best, he made a couple of all star games but defenses generally weren't that good in those days and Clark was certainly not as good a player as Lapper, Dooley, or Fraser. He's better than Chad McCarty if praise is required.

To me, he's just a fan favorite type, not as good as Hejduk but probably better than Oughton.