CHILE vs Peru, 12 de julio en Mendoza (R) (Copa America)

Discussion in 'Chile: Selecciones Nacionales' started by HeartandSoul, Jul 9, 2011.

  1. HeartandSoul Moderator

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    Un clasico del Pacifico adonde se disputa el liderato del grupo C.
          
  2. Yañez Member

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    Hemos dominado los ultimos dos partidos, no veo porque no podriamos dominar este. Ahora, entrara Valdivia como titular? yo creo que entrara en el segundo tiempo.
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    Yo creo que el mago sirve de chispazo más que de titular. Dejo al equipo de Uruguay knockeado anoche cuando entro y realmente cambio la cara del partido al cambiar la dinámica. Espero que haga lo mismo en este partido.
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    Debe de entrar en el entre tiempo.
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    Opino lo mismo.
  6. HeartandSoul Moderator

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    Chile ya esta clasificado para la siguiente ronda. Es mejor que Chile sea pragmatico y que no se juega a matar para este partido.

    Yo guardaria a los titulares que ya tienen amarilla. Para empezar pondria a Carmona y Estrada en vez de Medel y Vidal.

    Ojo que Alexis y Contreras tambien tienen amarilla, tambien Bravo.
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    Las amarillas se borran al pasar de ronda.

    Hay se salir a matar no mas para asegurar el primer lugar... si nos toca Brasil, mala cuea no mas, hay que ganarles a todos si se quiere llegar a la final. :eek:
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    Bueno si es asi a ganar o morir no mas. Pensaba que era como el mundial.
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    Las amarillas si se borran, pero la suspension no. Asi tengo entendido, alguien podria confirmar?
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    Con el inicio de la fase final, todas las tarjetas amarillas acumuladas se borran. Esto está decidido por la misma CONMEBOL. Solo da lugar a suspensión si la hubiere, una tarjeta roja en el último partido de la fase previa.

    Como dije fuera de la tarjetas rojas, lo demás es borrón y cuenta nueva..
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    Los jugadores que ya tienen tarjeta amarilla, si se les saca otra en este partido quedan suspendidos para los cuartos de final.
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    Según lo explicado por Carcuro, en caso de que un jugador obtenga una segunda amarilla (ante Perú), sería suspendido para los 4tos. Pero los ya amonestados--de no recibir otra amarilla--tendrían prontuario limpio. :)
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    nà que ver.....
    Carcuro no es quien redacta las reglas para Conmebol. solo se las está mandando....
    :p

    El reglamento de Conmebol es muy claro al respecto : todas las tarjetas amarillas son eliminadas sin excepción a esta regla para el inicio de la segunda ronda.
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    ...excepto por los que obtienen una segunda amarilla, frente a Perú. Y en dicho caso, serán suspendidos. :)
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    Parece que Borghi esta dispuesto a cambiar el esquema anticipando un Peru medio defensivo. Saldrian los dos mas questionados (Bosejeur y Jara) y entrarian Valdivia y Carmona. Pasaria a central Vidal.

    _________Bravo_________

    Contreras__Ponce____Vidal

    Isla___Carmona_____Medel

    Valdivia____Jimenez

    Alexis_____Suazo

    3-3-2-2 o 3-3-2-3 si es que pasa a ser mas delantero Jimenez
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    sin excepciones
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    Por eso mismo, las amarillas se borran, las suspensiones no. En otras palabras, hay que cuidar a los que tienen amarillas.
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    Esta shit no me dejo editar :)



    Borghi realizara por lo menos cuatro cambios, al parecer Peru hara lo mismo. Yo pienso que Peru pierde mas como equipo al cambiar cuatro jugadores que Chile haciendo lo mismo, debido a la calidad de la banca.
  19. HeartandSoul Moderator

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    Vidal, Medel, Contreras, y Sanchez son los cuatros que se debe cuidar.

    Carmona, Estrada, Gato Silva, y Paredes pueden ser los cuatro cambios.
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    [LINEUP-3-5-2]Suazo, Paredes, Bose, Estrada, Jimenez, Carmona, Isla, Jara, Ponce, Silva[/LINEUP-3-5-2]

    Creo que Chile pierde mas en el juego aereo ya que Contreras es uno de los mejores cabeceadores del equipo.

    Borghi ha improvisado con Silva como defensa central en los entrenamientos y jugo un par de minutos contra Paraguay.
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    Ojala pueda debutar Carlitos Munoz en algun momento de ese partido :)
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    Si Sanchez no juega es muy probable que Munoz entra durante el partido.

    Recien me fijo que Medel no tiene ninguna amarilla. :eek: :)

    Entonces pondria a Medel por Contreras y dejaria como contenciones a Estrada y Carmona.
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    [LINEUP-3-5-2]Suazo, Paredes, Isla, Vidal, Jimenez, Carmona, Sanchez, Jara, Ponce, Medal, Pinto[/LINEUP-3-5-2]

    The 3-5-2 formation will not change why now keep it the same, just read that Borghi will be making four changes.

    For me they would be:

    1. Pinto for Bravo, it would worry me a bit if he starts because of the yellow card and the ref may act stupid and give a yellow card like the first one he got. Pinto is a second goalie for a reason its his time now to show it even if may be for this one game.

    2. Medal for Contreras, Medal is better off at the back instead being a DM. Contreras well if you dont know by now you would not understand my stance about him last game that resulted in the goal for Uruguay.

    3. Carmona for Medal, Carmona needs to play more and against Peru he would take on Vargas I would have to imagine. Medal to go to the back line.

    4. Paredes for Sanchez, Paredes fine touch with ball is very good and should get the start. I would expect a goal from him the way he has been playing. Sanchez to go on the wing.

    5. Sanchez for Bose, Bose has playing well and Sanchez would have to play in this game and cautiously, with Sanchez on the wing the formation can easily change to a 4-3-3 at times with his speed. Bose to come in after the half.

    Ok thats 5 but Medal is on the field so I count that as 4 changes.

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    The three changes during the game:

    1. Bose for Sanchez - Bose should be kept in the game in some manner and protect Sanchez from another yellow.
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    2. Vidal for Silva - Mins for GatoSilva a must to get more depth from the bench and to protect Vidal from another yellow.

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    3. Estrada for Jara 70' - Estrada has played at the back from what I recall under Bielsa he is solid defensely and mature enough to hold it down at the back and also to protect Jara from another yellow, if he does not get one during the game who most likly to do so out of everybody.....

    [LINEUP-3-5-2]Suazo, Paredes, Isla, GatoSilva, Jimenez, Carmona, Bose, Estrada, Ponce, Medal, Pinto[/LINEUP-3-5-2]

    Sidenotes:

    Matias and Valdivia are game day decision but I doubt they would play if they less 100%. As for leaving Sauzo to start he would have to, to get his game going we need him to do so. Concern with Ponce being at the back but he usually bounces back from his mistakes. Jimenez must have proved a few people wrong with his play last game (including me a bit) its been a long time coming for him. Lastly Jara to start the kid must get his feets check if there are cold and if so his time definitely up. No I don't think Munoz would play at this point.
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