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Discussion in 'Olympique de Marseille' started by MetroChile, Sep 4, 2009.
I figured it would be easier/more organized to discuss all of l'OM CL's ongoings on one thread.
Well they did submit their Champion's League roster:
L'UEFA a officialisé vendredi la liste des joueurs de l'Olympique de Marseille inscrits pour disputer la Ligue des Champions 2009-2010. Didier Deschamps a retenu 21 joueurs, plus huit jeunes sur la liste B. En voici la liste : Mandanda, Andrade, Kouakbi (B) - Taiwo, Rodriguez, Hilton, Heinze, Diawara, Rool, Bonnart, Bocaly (B), Mbow (B), D'Ulivo (B) - Cissé, Cheyrou, Lucho, Ben Arfa, Kaboré, Mbia, Abriel, Valbuena, Osei (B), Ndoumbou (B) - Brandao, Niang, Koné, Morientes, J. Ayew (B), Gnabouyou (B).
tomorrow begins our quest to european glory
I am soo ready!!!
as a psg fan i wish your l'om fans alot of luck!!! i hope a win for marseille and for france! we need to beat acmilan good luck
wow the atmosphere looks fantastic
Inzaghi was offside on the goal
yes he was....since the goal intensity has been picked up and marseille are playing beautiful attacking football. first time really watching marseille is a great pleasure.
yes very intimidating...would be alot of fun!!!
One could kinda tell it would be a "weird" game once Heinze scored.
Cheyrou was the best OM player. He really should be getting Les Bleus call ups. Brandao was very non exsistant. I think the main problem other than the bad weather was that Milan is a veteran team and practically half of OM were new players. They still dominated the 2nd half and now that they didnt get no points it will be so hard to advance now.
I don't. I remember Brandão causing many problems for the Milan backline. On one occasion he jumped up for the ball and was promptly pulled down in front of the box by Nesta. The replays showed that Nesta had a hold of Brandão jersey. A foul should have been called, but like the first goal, the ref ignored it
hard lines for OM. now they're condemned to getting points off of real AND winning at san siro. a pity because they were just as good as milan in the first half and miles better in the second. if not for that pippo frigging inzaghi - i've never seen a player that one dimensional, but when that dimension is genius...
when you're in your fifties and still trying to chug around football fields you can identify with the rossoneri (not that i do). they can get played right off the field and still win because if football is an athletic game it's not all about being athletic*.
outside of L1 and european cups i don't watch as much football as most of you so maybe someone can clue me in: what's the deal about pato? isn't he supposed to be really good? did i miss something?
can you imagine the scene between flamini and gattusso in the changing room after the match? "father, today i am a man".
deschamps seems a pretty good judge of horseflesh: he said lucho wasn't the messiah... he's right!
comme d'hab, and all the more impressive because of the elements. 20 years the city fathers can't be bothered to get the vélo covered but at least they laid out free ponchos arranged in marseille's coat or arms.
yes, but very slightly, and no defender had even seen him; for me it's a good goal.
after niang you mean! but you're right, based on that match he should get called up.
perhaps a bit harsh, but he better be hoping L1 defenders were all busy last night, if they saw how easy it is to shut him down by turning his own punk tricks against him his career will take a severe downturn.
*my buds and i put a group of smartass kids (ours ) in their place sunday and let me tell you it's sweet!
M'Bia and Kabore had bad games. If Bonnart and Cana were out there instead then who knows. I didnt see Brandao do anything with the ball when he had it. He was pulled but he didnt show me anything. You need Lucho to play all 90 min. in order to win a game like this.
i didn't think much of kaboré or m'bia either, nor cissé, but you have to admit that they did much better than hold their own collectively.
still, when JPP says this is the strongest team french football has ever put together you start putting away all the sharp instruments. the man is clearly clinically insane.
We were somewhat unlucky to lose, but...oh well. We had chances, and there were certainly promising aspects to the performance, but we don't have a player like an Inzaghi whose sole purpose for living is to score goals. Brandao does well against small teams, in terms of making them pay for a decent number of their mistakes, and against stronger clubs he does a somewhat effective job of annoying the shit out of the opposition. But in these games against tougher opponents, we'll likely need goals from the likes of Lucho and Mamad, and unfortunately those didn't come last night. There were certainly signs that they will, at some point, come. Which is good. But it doesn't erase the fact that last night's loss likely just about puts us out of the Champions League, barring a few huge performances.
I'd have liked to seen Valbuena instead of Cisse, but I can understand what Deschamps was doing. We're really going to miss Kone during this stretch. Also, I don't quite get why Bocaly doesn't get a chance on the right, as it's pretty clearly not Kabore's best position.
All the reports I saw had predictied Abriel would start and he didnt even play. Morientes is OM's Inzaghi, a crafty veteran who can poach goals and maybe he should play more than just 10 min. OM has to intergrate too many new players and you cant expect success with that this early on.
I agree to some extent, on both points. Though I'm not sure Morientes really is physically capable of playing very much at this point, I think giving him a token 10 minutes at the end of the game is a bit useless. And, yes, it was always going to be somewhat difficult to get everything working "properly", and so we do have to give it some time. Unfortunately, the way the fixtures worked out in the Champions League didn't really give us any time.
don't worry we'll qualify in 8 we have a strong team and lucho is going to find the level and arfa ben also
as much as i always liked fernando and have never been able to stand pippo i have to admit morientes has never been more than a poor man's inzaghi
no more than OL ... besides, the hardest to get clicking is the charnière centrale, and hard to have complaints there!
lucho? i think you're right. HBA? we thought the same for FIVE YEARS.
Right, and Lyon had trouble to begin with as well. The Anderlecht match seemed to be a real turning point for them, and we'll see if there's a similar thing that happens here. The setbacks with Lucho and Mbia perhaps delayed matters, making things more complicated. Now, obviously, that doesn't really explain our trouble converting chances, but it's...something.
We certainly don't have a perfect team, and I'd welcome upgrades at right back and striker (and am cautious about Heinze), but though Europe was mentioned a lot because of Deschamps' history, this team seems to be much better designed for beating the mediocre to bad teams in the league than we've been in the recent past. And that was really where we lost the title last season, not necessarily against PSG or Lyon (even though those are more attractive examples to point to). Not that I want to lose to PSG and Lyon (or Madrid and Milan...), of course .
I think Bonnart is good enough at right back for now. Heinze looks very solid. Im not really sold on Mbia yet because why pay 12m for him when you already had Cana. I think Dechamps screwed up on that one. I cant think of another striker they could get this winter. There doesnt seem to be anyone in Ligue 1 who'd be available who could contribute.
I've always thought we should look to South America for a striker, and there've been a few that have moved recently who I thought could have done well for us, but I couldn't name a specific player who I think we should go after in winter.
Bonnart's a nice player, and I think he's certainly performed above expectations (at least, my expectations), but I think if we want to go beyond the group stage of the Champions League we'd ideally have someone better.
I thought they should have went after Sonogo or Alex Frei.
or gignac if they are willing to pay what toulouse is demanding. in the right system he can be deadly
but its huge gamble because he doesnt have european experience