Champions League Draw

Discussion in 'Chelsea' started by fernb8, Aug 28, 2013.

  1. Wrath

    Wrath Member+

    May 4, 2007
    New York
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Pretty clear when they issued the statement
     
  2. m_vandersee

    m_vandersee Member

    Aug 2, 2013
    Illinois
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Announcer first says that the tie would be reversed so that both Madrid teams wouldn't be home the same week, but then he says he got it wrong, so we will be in Madrid first, London second I guess
     
  3. m_vandersee

    m_vandersee Member

    Aug 2, 2013
    Illinois
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Winners of Semifinal #1 (Bayern vs Real Madrid) will be the "home team" for the final in Lisbon
     
  4. m_vandersee

    m_vandersee Member

    Aug 2, 2013
    Illinois
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Just thought I'd share some of the stats and facts from the ESPN Boot Room:
    The 2 matches against Atletico will be on either side of a weekend clash at Anfield
    Real Madrid are facing their 3rd straight German opposition in the Champions League Knockout Rounds
    Real vs Bayern is a rematch of the 2012 semifinal which saw Bayern advance on penalties
    Previous Chelsea-Atletico meetings in the Champions League were in the 2009-10 group stage including a 4-0 Chelsea win in London and a 2-2 draw in Madrid
    [​IMG]
    15 - Chelsea are unbeaten in their last 15 clashes with Spanish sides in the Champions League (W6 D9). Arriba.

    [​IMG]
    3 - Jose Mourinho won three of his four meetings with Diego Simeone's Atletico Madrid in all competitions when at Real Madrid (L1). History.
     
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  5. Blueallthru

    Blueallthru Member+

    Chelsea
    United States
    May 15, 2012
    The Interwebz
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Shocked we drew Atleti. Figured it was going to be Real.
     
  6. Belgian guy

    Belgian guy Member+

    Club Brugge
    Belgium
    Aug 19, 2002
    Belgium
    Club:
    Club Brugge KV
    I have now read some people who suggest Atletico might still not play him so that they do not damage their good relationship with Chelsea. Probably in the hope of getting another loan deal for him next season.
     
  7. Wrath

    Wrath Member+

    May 4, 2007
    New York
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    I hope Chelsea issues a statement giving the go ahead. As I said earlier, it will only sour our relationship with Courtois.

    AM was probably my least favored side because of the way they pressure. But oh well. Going to be fun. I have already applied for a leave for the return leg.
     
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  8. Dtrip77

    Dtrip77 Member+

    Jun 10, 2009
    N NJ!!!
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What are the dates?
     
  9. Wrath

    Wrath Member+

    May 4, 2007
    New York
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Semi-final draw
    Real Madrid CF (ESP) v FC Bayern München (GER, holders): 23 & 29 April
    Club Atlético de Madrid (ESP) v Chelsea FC (ENG): 22 & 30 April
     
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  10. Dtrip77

    Dtrip77 Member+

    Jun 10, 2009
    N NJ!!!
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I hope someone is looking into if this rule has ever been enforced by uefa before or if clubs stuck to the contract and not fielded a loaned player.

    But on the other hand, who's to say the loaned player wasn't fielded cause of injury/form.

    Ahhhh play the kid and there's no excuses. A true showing if he can hang
     
  11. Cletis

    Cletis Member+

    Jul 12, 2006
    Milwaukee, WI
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    "The integrity of sporting competition is a fundamental principle for UEFA ..."

    try not to laugh out loud reading that statement ...
     
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  12. Blueallthru

    Blueallthru Member+

    Chelsea
    United States
    May 15, 2012
    The Interwebz
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    WAGNH had a good article on this. They didn't have this stance previously.
     
  13. Wrath

    Wrath Member+

    May 4, 2007
    New York
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    The positive from playing AM is that they are also competing in La Liga and cannot afford to rest players. Also, the off-field drama with Bayern and Madrid would have been horrible.
     
  14. Cletis

    Cletis Member+

    Jul 12, 2006
    Milwaukee, WI
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    good news, thanks FA!:

    Chelsea FC ‏@chelseafc 25m
    Our home fixture with Sunderland will now be played on Saturday 19 April, kick-off 5.30pm. It will remain live on Sky Sports. #CFC
     
  15. The Cold Sea

    The Cold Sea Señor Mejor

    Feb 17, 2005
    The District
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
  16. yasik19

    yasik19 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Chelsea
    Ukraine
    Oct 21, 2004
    Daly City
    We can beat them. And I hope TC plays....it really would be the right thing to do.
     
  17. The Cold Sea

    The Cold Sea Señor Mejor

    Feb 17, 2005
    The District
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    I want him to play, too. I also want UEFA to shut its fat ******** hole and let the teams sort it out.
     
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  18. hudson hooligan

    hudson hooligan Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Aug 6, 2008
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Interesting question. I've read that UEFA came to the exact opposite conclusion in almost the same situation regarding Mo Bangura on loan from Celtic to IF Elfsborg. Here was UEFA's statement back then:

    [​IMG]
     
  19. Wrath

    Wrath Member+

    May 4, 2007
    New York
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Wow. F***ing c****
     
  20. hudson hooligan

    hudson hooligan Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Aug 6, 2008
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    From someone on reddit:
    I don't get the last point at all. We can sue in court to enforce our rights under the contract, but if we do so... UEFA can then ban us from next year's competition? That doesn't make any sense to me.
     
  21. The Cold Sea

    The Cold Sea Señor Mejor

    Feb 17, 2005
    The District
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Yes, UEFA is saying a contract that it and FIFA have see and approved is now null.
     
  22. hudson hooligan

    hudson hooligan Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Aug 6, 2008
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Chelsea have cleared Courtois to play in the semi-final
    http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/26972498
     
  23. Wrath

    Wrath Member+

    May 4, 2007
    New York
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    I read that but it still does not make complete sense

    "As far as we are concerned we will comply with loan rules."

    If we comply with loan rules, he won't play if AM don't pay the money.
     
  24. Cletis

    Cletis Member+

    Jul 12, 2006
    Milwaukee, WI
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Gourlay's comments are vague - read carefully, he is only saying Courtois is not prohibited from playing and that it is up to ATM whether or not to play him, which of course is true, assuming they are willing to pay the contract fee. The hubbub over UEFA's stance on this as compared to the Banguara situation has also been somewhat distorted by the headlines imo. Their statements on the two situations are not directly contradictory as many have stated.
     
  25. Cletis

    Cletis Member+

    Jul 12, 2006
    Milwaukee, WI
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think one has to take anything posted on reddit with a massive grain of salt. That said, I think the point he is making could be accurate:

    1. CFC can of course pursue a breach of contract action against ATM in an appropriate court if they feel the contract terms were violated (meaning, if Courtois plays, a fee is therefore payable from ATM to CFC under the contract.)

    2. However, CFC is subject to UEFA's regulatory powers in running its competitions, as are all clubs, and they are free to sanction CFC if they feel its actions violate their rules prohibiting one club from influencing the player decisions made by another club.

    just my take.

    In the end, I doubt either team will want to involve lawyers, and expect / hope this will be resolved in a reasonable fashion without resorting to courts or creating an unsightly public mess.
     

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