Carlos Vela at Real Sociedad Vol. II [R]

Yea, Vela has turned his back on his "country" or fellow Mexicans (or whatever) he owes it to me to play in the Olympics and qualifiers! Or no Vela should know whats best for him, he's been in the system his whole life and knows exactly whats behind door #2.

- Yes playing with your country's national squad is a privilege not a right.
- Yes when you win you make 100 million + people rejoice in a feeling of excellence
- and yes it is national team over any player at all times.
- However, His goals may not fall in the "winning the Olympics category".
- Maybe Vela feels like he has a different goal to accomplish.
- We do not know what he is going through mentally or even emotionally.
- For all we know he is going through some kind of crossroads in his life where he feels that if he doesn't act now he will never be a part of a great league team. NOW or NEVER!
- Maybe he is threatened by Chicharito's success and his competitiveness is pushing him in the league status direction.
- All we know is that he wants to sit this one out.

That being said, yes you can call him a puss and a snob but in time if he becomes a Legend (do not quote this) all is forgotten and no one will care what he did when he was 23. To be honest he has 7 maybe 8 prime years left in his career and if he believes that he needs to cement himself in a team that will not turn him in to a pro journeyman and if he wants to skip one year of national duty to do this... then more power to him. If he doesn't play with el TRI this year fine. But if he doesn't play next year nor the next ect... He can suck on it big time! all I'm trying to say is that we should give the kid the benefit of the doubt.

Gawd dam, is anybody entitled to a different opinion from yours? We get it, Vela is an idiot, other nt players are in similar situstion and don't snub the callup, and if he played the june WCQs it wouldn't ffect his club situation. Many of us afree with you, many don't. Can we move on? You've just been regurgitating the same shit over and over for the last week. Sorry to call you out, but for the last week your essays repeating the same things got old quick.

Man, there's been way too much bluster on this thread lately. I for one would like to see Vela sort out club situation so he can finally solidify himself as a first division regular. National team stardom will follow in due time, no doubts.

meh, the olympics come every 4 years, and once you are over 23, the likelyhood that you will go there again is almost nil.

but the qualifiers, when there is no preseason, when you have an agent, just like all the other players who are vying for a club to play for, and dont turn their back on their NT, there is no justification.

fack vela.

I don't give a flying fack about all that bullshit about me not being a professional footballer to spot bullshit from miles away.

perfect example, I do not need to be a rocket scientist to see that the challenger is exploding and disintegrating in the sky, and to know there is a problem.

oop: on vela

You mention two guys that were in similar situations as Vela last year, along with Juarez, that were still given the vote of confidence by Chepo and brought in for the Gold Cup while Vela wasn't.

Vela hasn't been a part of the national team since Chepo took over and the Federation didn't back him up the way they did other players with little playing time. The team has functioned well without him so why all the fuzz and pseudo nationalistic crap all of a sudden when he decides it's best for him to have a proper vacation and focus on his club future.

Vela acts almost on Nery level at times, maybe its a blessing

So, Vela won't be available for Qualifiers?

Probably had to do with his rocky relationship with the HC.

i guess first 2 qualifyiers, but after that he should go

Well Vela got sent to Copa America before Arsenal told him that he couldn't play. And for years during Aguirre era, he was always mentioned when players that didn't play in Europe and still got called. So maybe Chepo didn't but the federation did.

The Federation has a more than rocky relationship with Wenger and the Arsenal front office due to what took place three years ago with Vela and his injury at the 09 Gold Cup. It was beyond optimistic for the Fed and Chepo to think Wenger would allow Vela to go to Copa America when he was under no obligation to release him.

And he didn't.

Instead, Chepo brought Elias Hernandez and Angel Reyna to the Gold Cup and barely used either one while giving a vote of confidence to Juarez, Barrera (and Gio to a lesser extent) yet Vela was somehow exempt from that same treatment.

Furthermore, the spanish league will begin in mid august this year in order to give the spanish NT ample time to prepare their WCQ campaign which means Vela will join his new club sometime in early July to begin pre-season which leads us to believe he has the next five weeks to sort out his club future. This includes going to London and holding talks with Arsenal, analyzing his options and hopefully picking the right club.

I'm not saying I agree with his decision to skip the June WCQs but his club future is obviously important enough to him to not just leave it up to his agent to "analyze" his options and have to pick a team in a rushed manner due to having been with the NT. I also don't think his situation is comparable to others like you seem to think and feel he deserves the benefit of the doubt at this particular moment.

I also don't think he should be called in until the HEX since turning down the NT for friendlies is one thing but to do it with official matches on the line is not acceptable. Let him sort out his future and find consistency before calling up again early next year when the HEX starts.

I can excuse somewhat Vela for the Olympics, but WCQ? There is no good excuse to miss them. So he can think about his club future? That´s straight up laughable and anyone sensible knows it.

honestly who cares though....for once in a long time we have forwards that are scoring

If we were still rolling with the guishe,vuoso,sabah mix up i would be devastated...

pues ya rechazo al tri "en este momento"....ya paso, nadien le va a quitar lo "diva".

El Espanyol Negocia por Vela

tienen dinero?

Espanyol is broke.

They're broke as shit. Moreno is on his way out most likely.

It sucks for us fans but hes young and getting blackballed for the NT for awhile obviously is still festering in his head. Professionally hes doing better than he has in a long time so its hard for me to shit on his decision. Time heals and he'll be back so im not too concerned.

I personally don't have an issue with him settling his issues with finding a steady club. Sure he's missing a couple of qualifiers but at the end of the day, stability will make him a better player and mentally stronger. I also believe there is some heat between Chepo and Vela. Chepo is known for holding grudges and I think Vela is probably being a little stubborn himself. Let these two love birds have their time apart. It'll all work out in everyone's favor. You know what they say, absence makes the heart grow fonder.

I for one hope everyone is done foaming at the mouth and we can move on.

Examples please.

Oh I agree that it was stupid for the FMF to think that it was going to get Vela no question asked although I think that not calling him up for the Gold Cup may have swayed them. And also to me there is a difference you didn't make. Hernandez, Reyna, Juarez and Barrera all didn't make the cut for the olympics. Only Gio was in a similar situation than Vela and there is no doubt that Chepo rates Gio higher.

And I don't share the feeling of giving him the benefit of the doubt after it's technically the 3rd time he says no to the national team. Can he have some compromise to the NT? Some people are acting as if it's such a chore for him. Yeah he needs to get consistency but that is why it was acceptable for him to be excused in february and the Olympics. It would have been the least for him to just made the most comfortable of all FIFA dates this year and he couldn't do that and now he looks like a guy who think he's too good for the NT (which I don't share, I just think he's dumb).

And I also don't agree how he must wait until the Hex to be called upon. If we don't make it out of the semifinal group, we don't get to the Hex. And yes Mexico should make it but there is a lot more risk with it too. Just as an example we have the last cycle where we were the first team to qualify out of the hex but we only squeaked thru the Semifinal group by goal difference.

Jesus christ

Rafa and Pern are in desperate need of a timeout.