Caps and Gown?

Discussion in 'College & Amateur Soccer' started by Hararea, Jun 10, 2012.

  1. Hararea Member+

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    I've been looking a little at which colleges' players have advanced to the US national team, so I'm planning to post some notes about it here. For starters, there are four colleges who've had multiple players capped in 2012.

    1. Maryland leads the way with four, Edu, Goodson, Zusi, and DeLaGarza.
    2. UCLA is next with three, Bocanegra, Rimando, and Feilhaber
    3. Portland has Cherundolo and Pearce
    4. Furman has Dempsey and Clark

    The only players above who played college soccer in 2005 or later are Edu, Zusi, and DeLaGarza, all from Maryland. If Omar Gonzalez hadn't gotten injured, he would likely have made this list, too.
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  2. Hararea Member+

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    What I've actually done is look at caps from 1993-2012. Not surprisingly, the ACC and Pac-6 come out tops. Note that when I list a school, I'm putting the year of its most recent cap in parentheses, along with the relevant player or players.

    Seven ACC schools have been on the board within the last three years. Maryland (see above), Wake (2012, Parkhurst), UNC (2012, Loyd), Clemson (Onyewu, 2012), BC (Bedoya, 2011), NC State (Mastroeni, 2009) and Duke (Heaps, 2009). Impressive as that is, it would've seemed unthinkable a decade ago that Virginia (Olsen and Albright, 2007) would be off the radar. Behind them, none of Virginia Tech, Syracuse, or Pitt has had a cap since at least 1992.

    Before San Diego State (Corona, 2012) jumped ship, The Pac-6 was the only conference where every school had been represented, although Washington (McCarty, 1999) and Cal (Woodring, 1993) haven't made it for a while. The other member schools are UCLA (see above), Stanford (Marshall, 2010), and Oregon State (Findley 2010). Newcomer Cal St Bakersfield has none, while the now-defunct Fresno State program had Tim Martin in 1996.
  3. Hararea Member+

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    A couple of conferences show a funny sort of pattern, where the dominant program doesn't have any caps, but some less prominent programs do.

    In the MPSF, New Mexico hasn't had a single player capped. On the other hand, Denver (Borchers, 2010), San Jose State (Suarez and Brown, 2003), and departing Sacramento State (Enochs, 2001) all did. With ex-UNLV player Nick DeLeon in strong rookie form, it seems likely that this list will grow.

    The story is similar in the Big West, where UCSB hasn't had a single player capped, whereas UC Irvine (Evans, 2012), Cal State Northridge (Franklin, 2011), and Cal State Fullerton (Franchino, 1998) all did.
  4. Hararea Member+

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    A conference that's been almost irrelevant is the Big Ten, where Indiana (Alexander, 2011) is the only school that has any caps at all.

    The Big East hasn't done a lot better, with 12 of last year's 16 members missing out. The absentees include some surprises, like Connecticut, Louisville, and Notre Dame. Perhaps Tony Cascio and Nick DeLeon will break the drought?

    Here are the most recent ones from the Big East schools who've made it
    2012 Seton Hall, Kljestan
    2011 South Florida, Wallace
    2009 St John's, Big East, Wingert
    2007 Rutgers, Big East, Gros
    none for the any of the other 12 schools


    For its own part, the WCC has far better representation than the Big Ten or Big East, although all of its players left school a long while ago.

    2012 Portland, Cherundolo and Pearce
    2010 Gonzaga, Ching
    2005 Santa Clara, Cannon
    1994 San Francisco, Doyle
    none LMU, San Diego, St Mary's
  5. Hararea Member+

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    One of the clear lessons here is that even though it's hard for anyone to make the national team, it's not impossible to rise from a pretty obscure program. Here are recent examples, with some schools being more obscure than others.

    2012 State Farm CC, Buddle
    2012 Chico State, Wondolowski
    2012 Drexel, Parke
    2012 Rhode Island, Cameron
    2012 JMU, Sapong
    2011 Seattle Pacific, Hahnemann
    2011 Illinois-Chicago, DeMerit
    2010 Evansville, Perkins
    2009 Dayton, Rolfe
    2009 West Texas A&M, Arnaud

    Note that this doesn't count schools that players transferred up from, like Cal Poly Pomona (Bornstein) or Cal State Dominguez Hills (Hartman).

    Also, to go along with defunct Fresno State, both East Carolina (Simms, 2005) and Alabama A&M (Harbor, 1996) are represented even though they got the axe.
  6. Queeg Member

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    Good thread. Thanks for the info Hararea.

    Do we have any stats on players that have played in college soccer in the last 5 years that have represented their nations at full international level other than the United States?
  7. scoachd1 Member

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    Here is a list of active MLS players who have played internationally. Some have been out of college for a while.

    Gonzalo Segares, Costa Rica, Virginia Commonwealth
    Rodney Wallace, Costa Rica, Maryland
    Steve Zakuani, Republic of Congo, Akron
    Ante Jazic, Canada, Dalhousie
    Adrian Cann, Canada, Louisville
    Patrice Bernier, Canada, Syracuse
    Greg Sutton, Canada, St. Lawrence
    Steve Purdy, El Salvador, California
    Dominic Oduro, Ghana, Virginia Commonwealth
    Patrick Nyarko, Ghana, Virginia Tech
    Jean-Marc Alexandre, Haiti, Lynn
    Shalrie Joseph, Grenada, St. John’s
    Omar Cummings, Jamaica, Cincinnati
    Shaun Francis, Jamaica, Lindsey Wilson
    Ryan Johnson, Jamaica, Oregon State
    Tyrone Marshall, Jamaica, Florida International
    Dane Richards, Jamaica, Clemson
    Khari Stephenson, Jamaica, Williams
    Andrew Boyens, New Zealand, New Mexico
    Michael Boxall, New Zealand, Santa Barbara
    Kei Kamara, Sierra Leone, Cal State Dominguez Hills
    Julius James, Trinidad & Tobago, Connecticut
    Scott Sealy, Trinidad & Tobago, Wake Forest
    Alejandro Moreno, Venezuela, UNC Greensboro
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  8. onewhoknows Member

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    Here is a topdrawer story that appeared yesterday about a former Division III college player that had a pretty successful pro career with an interview and some comments about his college experience:

    http://www.topdrawersoccer.com/camps-soccer-articles/only-college-player-in-champions-final_aid24436
  9. Sandon Mibut Member+

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    Nice list.

    I'd had Hondurans Ramon Nunez (SMU) and Roger Espinoza (Ohio State) to the list. Both were on Honduras' World Cup team. And Tyler CC's David Somma played for South Africa.

    BTW, in WC qualifying last week, Olivier Occean (Southern Connecticut State) started and scored for Canada against Cuba and Tosaint Ricketts (Wisconsin-Green Bay) also started. And Purdy started for El Salvador while Richards and Johnson started for Jamaica.
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  10. Hararea Member+

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  11. I Love the game Member

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    Fellow Buckeye Danny Irizarry has an International CAP for Puerto Rico vs Honduras in a WCQualifier. Unfortunately Roger was called into the Honduras side in the next round after the Home/Away series was completed.
  12. scoachd1 Member

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    Don't know how Espinoza didn't make it in post but here are a few other current non-MLS players from more well known countries:
    Vedad Ibisevic, Bosnia and Herzegovina, St. Louis
    Rob Friend, Canada, Santa Barbara
    Neven Subotic, Serbia, South Florida
    Ryan Nelson, New Zealand, Stanford
    Tony Lochhead, New Zealand, Santa Barbara
  13. Sandon Mibut Member+

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    I don't count Subotic - spit! - because he only spent the spring semester at USF and didn't play in any games that count.

    Here are a few others.

    Bakary Soumare (Virginia) plays for Mali.
    Bouna Coundol (Albany) - plays for Senegal.

    Both have played in the African Cup of Nations.

    A few more:

    Yura Movsissyan (Pasadena CC) - Armenia
    Steward Ceus (Albany) - Haiti
    Dejan Jakovic (Alabama-Birmingham) - Canada
    Andy Dorman (Boston University) - Wales
    Dan Keat (Dartmouth) - New Zealand
  14. Sandon Mibut Member+

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    Yavapai's program is amazing.

    If I ran an MLS club, I'd hire their coach for a prominent role in scouting and/or player development.
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    Mamadou Danso, Gambia, Southern Polytechnic
    Bill Gaudette, Puerto Rico, St Johns
    Josh Saunders, Puerto Rico, Cal St Fullerton and Cal
    Efrain Burgos, El Salvador, San Jose St and Cal Poly (called up but no caps)
  17. Sandon Mibut Member+

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  18. Queeg Member

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    Impressive list. Great work once again. Repped.
  19. Vilhelm Member

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    When was Stuart Holden's (Clemson) last cap?
  20. Hararea Member+

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    October 2010

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