CA. Boca Juniors -the team & referees -

boca juniors is team known in south america for winning games in the libertadores with help of the refs.

Last night the ref did not call a penalty in the first half when pahoy was rugby tackled by an argentinian defender. Then he gives riquelme a free kick on the top of the area. but was there really a foul there? Ofcourse the uruguayian referee gives yellows to the colombians but not to the argentines who make vicious tackles. uruguay is a brother country of argentina and always help each other like this. they only bring shame to their countries. There also was another penalty at the end of the second half, again pahoy fouled. Please. argentinians qualify but everyone knows they are bathed in shame.

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What a pathetic sock.

Boca got the worst ref call in this whole Libertadores that could have easily left them out.

3 goals yesterday and it could have been much more. Cucuta got outplayed after deciding to bunker in La Bombonera like small clubs do. Get over it.

A llorar a la sala de maternidad.

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I wish the game would have been delayed for at least 30 minutes, so the fog went away. It was unfair conditions for such an important game.

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cucuta didn't get outplayed. remember the aggregate score was 4-3. only a goal difference! and cucuta also could have scored way more in the first leg as boca could of scored more in the second.

Despite the blue shirt, the hype, and the name, boca juniors remains undistinguuished amongst the competition, and needed the refeeres help to win the match.

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Yeah, what an advantage, ********ing Boca always playing close to the river. Fifa should ban games at sea level so close to the water too!

http://www.observa.com.uy/Osecciones/deportes/nota.aspx?id=78595

Cucuta complaining about the fog, give me a break!
If we start to complain for things like that, we're gonna end up playing indoor with AC.

Sin niebla se hubieran comido 5

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Bathed in shame? wtf..anda a lavarte las bolas y a llorar a la iglesia. First you start whinning about the argies throwing flares on the pitch, did you all see the game in Colombia they were also throwing things at the Boca players, so don't give me that shit. The players know sh!t like that happens in the Libertadores. As its been mentioned if it wasnt for the fog, it would've been a 5 a 0.
That being said...Props to Cucuta for their excellent campaing.

Socks now a days say the silliest things

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It was delayed 45 minutes.

And boca had a goal annuled because the ref couldnt see the offisde.

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The game was delayed 45 minutes? Do you mean at the beginning? Well in the end it was useless.

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boca was superior i admit that. but they still use the referees help!!!!!!!!!!! even the experts at fox sports agree the refereeing wasn't all that great.

boca gremio in buenos aires: another brotherly uruguayan refeere

once again the argentines beign refereed by the helping hand of their brothers from uruguay.

I just have one thing to say. Don't be surprised when referees from other countries start raising bizare offsides flags and cancelling your rightly scored goals. Isn't that what happened againts libertad? You can only keep cheating for so long before retaliation begins.

Enjoy the colombian ref in Brazil. lets see how professional he will be.

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anybody that reallly understands a football match can see the refereeing completely canceled the chances cucuta had.

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Gremio is from RS which is uruguays neighbor....

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your point???

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Whats your point?

The Uruguayan ref may have grown up on the Brazilian Border and been a Gremio fan for all we know....I dint think Uruguayans favor Argies...

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Stop the whining already!!!!

Larrionda is the best ref in Conmebol right now. Everybody knows that.
The colombians had Boca on the ropes, and when it came time to step on their head and kill them, their soiled their pants as they usually do.
And then they blame it on the refs, as they usually do, or the argentine-uruguayan brotherhood conspiracy.
Shut the ******** up and grow some balls already.
This whining is getting old...

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While I agree with you in some respect, one thing does not cancel the other. Boca had a good first half in Cucuta and I recall a shot by Ibarra that smashed the post really hard around the middle of the second half. I think that after that the local conditions favored Cucuta who made the most out of it. Was a closer game

The game in B.A. was heavily one-sided and the MVP was Cucuta's goalie. However there are a few calls that can affect the outcome of the game and believe me, Boca gets those calls 90% of the time, specially when playing in La Bombonera. With a subtle but effective refereeing, the field can be tilted one way, calling stupid fouls for one team and not calling some hard ones on the other. And that happened to Cucuta, the referee missed a few calls here and there and started to bring Boca closer to Cucuta's Box blowing the whistle in strange calls.

Riquelme's goal was a thing of beauty, but the foul that originated the free-kick did not exist. And while the kids from Cucuta got yellow-carded almost instantly, Boca players got away with more-than-rough plays. Of course, after a few minutes of that a team is against the ropes, cannot defend too hard for risking playing with one man less, cannot get out of their own field because they'll be rugby-tackled with no foul called, and get a lot of free-kicks against very difficult to defend.

The final play, when Caranta touches the ball and his momentum make him trip Pajoy is the kind of play that if in favor of Boca will be a PK without hesitation. I did not see the first 20 minutes of the game, but apparently there was another one just like that at that time.

Boca was superior? Probably yes. Did Boca get help from the referee? off course, more than needed. See, Boca is a great team, has great fans and never ever gives up, but this kind of favoritism make us perceive that their titles are tainted.

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psss

what part of mexico are you in?

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get ready for this one. cause this is the worse.

1rst half bustos prepares to take his free kick. he places the ball on the ground with care. when he is done palermo steps up and pushes the ball down burying it into the pitch.
bustos complains and steps up to place the ball carefully once again as he can not kick a buried ball. The uruguayian referee shows bustos a yellow card. Why? Probaly for setting up the ball twice. I guess bustos should of kicked that buried ball.

After the game the uruguyaian ref prolly got together with argentinian Palermo and giggled about it.

How pathetic does boca get? Disgrace.

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That kind of incident doesn't surprise me ... if it happened as you state that is ... While I was adamant of this stories being exagerations once upon a time ... Now I am not so sure ... I mean did you look a tthe last two WC qualifiers where Uruguay had meet Argentina in the last game in Montevideo ... lol ... and the results and performance of the Argies has allways been highly questionable ...

Having said that ... there is been many a time where an Argie refs have farked up the Uruguayan national teams in said qualifiers ... in the run up to WC 2006 the Argies referees benefited Brasil in said fixtures when they played Uruguay ... but then again an Argie ref did the Charruas a favour when they were under the pump in LIma against Peru ... it all evens out I guess ...

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Here we disagree, I think that Boca would have gotten any of the two if the foul was against them.

Difficult refereeing, probably you are right, and if you read my post I accept that the game was very one-sided.

Throwing stuff at players: It seems ironic that now that is NOT NORMAL for a team that plays in S.A. and in a Local tournament that has been suspended how many times due to fan violence? What about the fireworks and the stuff that was thrown to Zapata after the second goal? Pulleeeeeze...

Water on the field: And what are you going to do about it, call Grondona and get FIFA to ban games with humidity over 85%? Libertadores is about home field advantage, but it is unfair if used agains Boca?

Water on the locker room: Probably was some tricksery, I can see it, but Cucuta was under a heavy water shortage due to lack of rain and I think some oil spillage, just reading the local news your managers should have known it and being able to bring some Gatorade or Water Gallons.

This I totally agree with you, Cucuta tried to grab too much and went home empty handed. You cannot have both, LT and Liberadores.

I think that the game was difficult but I am one of the few that did not see the fog as a machination from Boca fans, I agree with you it affects both sides.

Agree with you, after the 2nd goal even Ibarra blasted a shot to the pole and the third goal came out of no where, probably because defenders were a little tired.

I did not make that coment and I did not see the play, that is your version, but again a Yellow Card to the free-kick taker is something you do not see everyday, only against Boca foes...

Apparently the most intimidated were the referees, who yellow-carded 3 Cucuta players in the first half but none from Boca eventhough I think one of the fouls prevented a clear chance for Cucuta. Furthermore the foul that originated the first goal was not, even Miembro said it. Look I'm not saying that Boca was not a better team, specially in the first half in Cucuta and the second Half in BA, but you can ask people from other countries and they'll tell you how biased the referees look from outside.

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I know of a lot of fans that did, but basically Cucuta showed a lot of sportmanship in BA and kept playing despite the fog and the stuff threw at them...

Again, one thing does not cancel the other. You can have a good team and some help from the referees.

And there is another reason why it is so shameful to see the way some referees help a team that does not need it...

Therefore you as a Boca fan, can see the unfair refereeing and hostile when Boca plays away.... mmmmm.... interesting.

Well, they're gone, Boca was superior, Boca won. Still you can wonder what if...

I have not said that Boca was always favored by referees, but that in BA was very obvious. And besides Local-friendly referees are part of Libertadores Folklore, only that it is insane what your team gets away with...

This sounds like stuff of Urban legend, but let me research it. However the water shortage due to Oil spillage was true and I can documented it. And sudenly the water bottles thrown to Zapata become paper rolls ? and yes, the team on the field cannot be blamed for it, same way the team on the field on Cucuta cannot be blamed for the stuff that falls on your Corner takers...