C.R. Flamengo 2014: Rumo ao Bi [R]

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  1. NotreDameFlamengo

    Jul 25, 2011
    Raleigh, NC
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Why another Zaga? The kid must be a cant pass up. At least I hope thats the case.
     
  2. NotreDameFlamengo

    Jul 25, 2011
    Raleigh, NC
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Fla tem contratado caras nas areas que nao tah faltando, atacante e zaga. Posso entender se esses jogadores fossem nomes provados. Mas, realmente precisa apostar nessas areas? Acho que soh vai ser jogado no transito que jah existe. Fla tem um monte de jogadores no ataque que exibem as memsas caracteristicas, que rendem mais ou menos no mesmo nivel. Pq nao aposta em um garcom ou segundo volante?
     
  3. Mengão86

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    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Hernane may be sold, so they needed to get someone that's a physical presence to back up Alecsandro since no one else has those characteristics on the squad (Satori, Nixon, etc). Arthur had interest from other big teams, so Fla had to act fast.

    Marcelo has been receiving plaudits for 2 years now in the Carioca. Welinton was loaned out and Erazo will be preparing for the Cup. Marcelo is an upgrade over Frauches and Fernando, who they intend to loan out. So the CBs will look like: Wallace, Samir, Chicao and Marcelo.
     
  4. NotreDameFlamengo

    Jul 25, 2011
    Raleigh, NC
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Do you have an opinion on Rei Arthur from Londrino?
     
  5. Mengão86

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    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Not that much. He had a good Estadual. He was good for Londrina a few years ago and Coritiba signed him. He barely played and didn't impress on his limited time there.

    Fla has also signed another striker -- Henrique from Portuguesa.
     
  6. Mengão86

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    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
  7. Emperor Adriano

    Emperor Adriano Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
    Utica NY (the refugee city)
    Club:
    Santos FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    I was hyping him up in the state championship threads, he has potential.
     
  8. Mengão86

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    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
  9. Emperor Adriano

    Emperor Adriano Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
    Utica NY (the refugee city)
    Club:
    Santos FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    it'd be a mistake if Chicao goes to the bench, Samir has been shaky.
     
  10. Mengão86

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    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    @globoesportecom: Otimista por vocação, Jayme crê em Fla forte, mas pede chegada de meia http://t.co/cgxYqSPy3J

    Good interview. I'm glad he sees certain problems...
     
  11. Mengão86

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    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    @ge_fla: Analisador tático: André Santos deixa Guilherme livre e Corinthians marca http://t.co/MH9zU9GI7W
     
  12. Emperor Adriano

    Emperor Adriano Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
    Utica NY (the refugee city)
    Club:
    Santos FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Is Rodolfo going to Ponte or Bahia? I'd be interested to see what he could do with Ponte.
     
  13. Mengão86

    Mengão86 Moderator
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    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Ponte
     
  14. Mengão86

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    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Adriano and Kleber rumored....
     
  15. NotreDameFlamengo

    Jul 25, 2011
    Raleigh, NC
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Which Kleber? Porto?
     
  16. Mengão86

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    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Gladiador...
     
  17. Mengão86

    Mengão86 Moderator
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    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Hernan Nicolas Sisto ‏@HernanSistoESPN 60 min
    #Velez Flamengo vuelve a la carga por Canteros pero esta vez suma un jugador mas a su paquete...quiere llevarse a Lucas Pratto

    #Velez para ser claro:se habla de 3M de dolares por Canteros y 4M de Euros por Pratto lo q pagaria Flamengo,nada oficial aun,solo un interes
     
  18. Emperor Adriano

    Emperor Adriano Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
    Utica NY (the refugee city)
    Club:
    Santos FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    I'm starting to lose belief in your front office. To many desperate and lame moves and complaining about money with 30 million plus fans. If they would of just signed difference makers the libertadores may be still in play and you wouldn't have a gigantic roster where most don't even make the bench or play.
     
  19. NotreDameFlamengo

    Jul 25, 2011
    Raleigh, NC
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    The problem is the back debts and mandatory back payments. With accumulating interest those have grown to be insane monthly payments.

    Plus there are no sure fire guys out there, that are would come for reasonable (just) transfer fees.
     
  20. Emperor Adriano

    Emperor Adriano Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
    Utica NY (the refugee city)
    Club:
    Santos FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    So you think there were no other options besides buying Elano, Mugni, Erazo, and Alecsandro? Not counting Leo, Feijao, Everton... They brought in plenty of players, they just missed with the scouting. It is hard for me to blame debt when you added a bunch of players this year. The front office could of paid better players instead of adding more average players to a gigantic squad filled with average players . If they are so broke why the gigantic squad? Why bring in so many players this window?
     
  21. NotreDameFlamengo

    Jul 25, 2011
    Raleigh, NC
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    no to low transfer fees, and relatively low wages. Who could they have gotten without spending and taking big risks? They went hard after Elias, who was proven and a safe bet, but we all know how that worked out.
     
  22. Mengão86

    Mengão86 Moderator
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    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    A lot of those moves were simply depth moves. Everton came cheaply. Elano came for half of his salary at Gremio, but I agree he was a mistake. The biggest mistake for me was not having a Plan B for Elias only till the very last minute when they pursued Canteros. I would have liked a better first volante and a more experienced #10 (Cadu's salary hurt acquiring one as well).
     
  23. Emperor Adriano

    Emperor Adriano Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
    Utica NY (the refugee city)
    Club:
    Santos FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    There are so many good 1st volante's in this lg at a cheap price that is inexcusable in itself. I saw Everton's and Leo's wages and I wouldn't call them relatively low or "depth" wages. Of course players will get paid more at Flamengo but shelling out wages for even more depth is a waste. Erazo and Mugni I would imagine had pretty decent transfer fees unless they were loaned out. Didn't you guys enter the libertadores with 40 plus players?
     
  24. NotreDameFlamengo

    Jul 25, 2011
    Raleigh, NC
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    I'm content with Caceres and rotating the others at 1st volante
     
  25. NotreDameFlamengo

    Jul 25, 2011
    Raleigh, NC
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Erazo was a big mistake, but nowhere near the typical mistake ($) for Fla. I'm still waiting to judge Mugni, he looks to have the talent.

    We are having a very hard time unloading all the dead weight of this team, even on loan. There are a ton of guys at the same level. Decent bench players for small Brasileirao level teams, and solid starters for the Serie B and state league teams, but for teams like Flamengo they are useless.
     

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