It's notable only in the USA, the nation where american football and baseball are the most followed sports and soccer is a second-tier sport. The Cosmos were the most expansive club in the world? Because thay took out Pelè from retirement? I doubt it. Perhaps the most expansive in the States, not in the entire world. I'm not here to offend anyone, I'm just here to open your eyes: outside of the USA nobody is going to care much about the Cosmos, face it.
...so the city of NY is notable only in the US? I'm not worried about being offended by you, especially if you keep ignoring my point with your incessant focus on the merits of European football vs American sports. Besides which, European teams weren't spending the type of money back then that they do these days. There's a reason Pele never played in Europe. Look, I have relatives in the UK, so I'm privy to the fact that the Cosmos aren't well know outside of the US, but NYC damn well is. If you're going to remain so myopic on this topic then I guess that I can't explain it fully to you. Cosmos is definitely the best known brand associated with the sport in the US and it has the added benefit of being tied to one of the premier cities in the world. There is going to be an attraction to being able to do something different in the US, especially to an investor for whom an immediate return is of little importance. That's where the potential exists for outside investment. It's not like this plan was dreamt up by an American. PK's a Brit.
Right, and are you a billionaire who wants to invest in soccer? No. It raised their international profile 1) in the wealthiest soccer country in the world, England, and 2) for people, you know, in the business of soccer. So, if no one knew about this game outside of the US and England, why do you think that the loss made them less attractive to potential international investors? I think I have the answer, because you're talking out of your ass. Saying that an arab sheik who was going to invest $100 million in the Cosmos would now change his mind because they lost 6 - nil in a testimonial match might be one of the dumbest things I have ever heard.
Actually I bet they'll continue selling the Umbro retro jerseys on the side. What this means of course is that the Cosmos MLS jersey will have a reimagined logo on an adidas strip
The city of New York is famous in the world, American people play soccer don't. That's the point. ps: btw, when I was there, I found NY City one of ugliest cities in the world, you have much more beautiful places there... but this is my opinion.
And you build a worldwide profile by being ignored by soccer markest numbers 2, 3 and 4 in the world? Europeans will not care at all about NY Cosmos, like they didn't care back in the 70's. You americans always think to be better than everyone else, that's the point, I have that under my sight every day.
Oh, by the way, Pelé didn't play in Europe because the Brazilian government, in 1962 (when O Rei was at its peak), created a law that declared Pelé a "national treasure", preventing him to play abroad. In 1975, Pelé was the shadow of the player who was in the 60s, and most European teams were definitely not interested anymore, especially after 1 year of retirement.
Wow, and your an anti-american racist asshole to boot. No, "us Americans" don't think "to be better" than everyone else. I for one am not of that opinion. But you are making the unbelievably stupid claim that the result of the paul scholes testimonial match means that it will be less likely that an investor will invest in the Cosmos project. Whether or not Europeans "care" or not is really not the point. (Though you are wrong, many Italians "cared" very much when Chinaglia was signed away from Lazio to the Cosmos). The point is that since the Cosmos played in a match against the world's wealthiest and most recognizable club (sorry Inter and the rest of the Serie A, a league the world hates outside of Italy), Manchester United. It shows that the ownership group has the contacts and wherewithal to get invited to such a game, and that is of interest to investors. I'm sorry that for you, you being corrected by an American translates to some racist, xenophobic bullshit for you. But it really means only one thing, you were very wrong, regardless of nationality.
bla blah blah... I've listened many time to americans speaking like this after a brawl where I called the Military Police, trying to convince me that that wasn't necessary and I should have called them again to say that there was a misunderstanding on my part. That's strange that just 5 minutes before they tryed to smash a bottle on my neck screaming something like "you dirty little italiano, you can't sit next to us. sit on the other part of the venue." It happened 3/4 times only to me. People where just pissed off that Chinaglia signed for an unknown club from the other part of the world. And now we know the reason he did. If you have soooo many money, why your front office isn't buying Ronaldinho (like when the old Cosmos bought Pelè) to start next season instead of pray Manchester United to let them take part participate in a totally useless friendly?? By the way, I'm not anti-American, my cousins are actually sons of an american military that used to work at the american base here and then moved to Pittsburgh and they're cool people. I'm against the f***ing arrogants.
Yes, and I'm not anti-Italian, it's just that I think that all Italians are in the mafia... Shut the ******** up, xenophobic anti american piece of shit..
Since you don't seem to be ironic nor sarcastic, you're admitting it to be a racist. Great. I've head enough of reading your arrongant rantings, but I know you're not fed up. Don't worry, USA is the place where to invest on football... (the gridiron version, though).
Actually, I don't think this is a language or cultural thing. You are in fact this stupid. You may leave now.
Perhaps, but people look to criticize the Cosmos for anything. I mean really, saying that losing the Scholes testimonial will make it less likely for anyone to invest in the Cosmos is stupid at best, and assassination at worst. Then to be on here and have the gall to say that all Americans are arrogant and think they are always right? And how he's always involved in fights and US military cops don't take his side? WTF???!!! I'm sorry, I'm not in a mood to put up with so much crap.
If you don't have anything productive to say about the U.S., Americans, or American soccer, you need to leave these forums. This is the MLS forum and it is clearly for fans of the top flight American soccer league. It is clear that you could care less about MLS and American soccer based on your posts, so it's time for you to leave. Stop Trolling.
So it looks like Montreal and Vancouver will be going with managers with a lot of experience with the North American game. If you had to guess, are you guys going to also go with a North American coach? Or do you think you'll do a Red Bull and go after a foreign coach instead?
Assassination at worst?? hahaha, never tryed to start a career as a stand-up comedian? Yes, I think that most americans (especially american government) have an arrogant attitude towards others, but I never siad that all the american are like that, read better. Anyway, that's a matter of fact: if you lived here you's know how they build and they're managing the base. But since you live in the US it's hard for you to see that. Oh, and I didn't said that the MP didn't take my side: I was quite amused to see the cops beating up the military. Anyway there were also times were the MP took the "american side" for no reasons. Oh, by the way, I was here: [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twAfpR-VFPI"]Protests in Italy - not covered by MSM in UK or US‏ - YouTube[/ame] Guess who started to beat?
Hope its a north american coach. With gio running the PDL team - maybe him or Cobi gets first crack? Just speculating. But I hope they stay at home.
If you don't want people here with a different opionion in a discussion forum, you should ask to transform BS into a newsblog. I'm actually interested in the development of your league, I'm not interested in arrogant rants.
I say we just get back on track for a potential announcement discussion. Everything else - we can just end.
All these threads have become quite stale...or maybe I've said the same thing for a few years and need some actual news.
http://totalfootblog.com/2011/08/10/new-york-cosmos-execs-dressed-by-official-tailor-of-mls/ read this article carefully. Something substantial. Not big news, but good news.
"On top of that, the press release issued by Hart Schaffner Marx on August 9th noted that “the New York Cosmos will play a match in New York City later this fall.” Whether or not the release was approved by the Cosmos organization, clearly someone from the Cosmos had to have mentioned this to them." Should be fun
While I am no fan of american foreign policy, you actually want to get into smack talk about the US government as an Italian??? Holy sweet mother of jesus you're ridiculous.
