BVB General Transfer Thread III [R]

And they won it!!!

 

It was harder to win back to back European Cup titles back prior to 1990s because you had to play league winners and not some 4th place team.

To do that AND win your domestic league again was a milestone.

 

I think it's easier to qualify for European spots for obvious reasons. The tournaments are longer. Also I think there's more parity in most leagues in general. Not much but just a tad more.

 

It looks like with David Moyes about to be sacked, Kagawa and the other MU folks are reconsidering moving to other clubs in the summer. There's even talk of MU brass trying to take Klopp away. Didn't they realize it would have been easier to persuade Pep?

 

Was told today that Dortmund were lining up an official bid for Kagawa. (NOT a swap) Won't happen now - Shinji wants to stay.

— Raphael Honigstein💙 (@honigstein) April 21, 2014

 

KICKER: Dortmund will spend more than 30 million euros this summer!

Our main transfer target - Immobile!

Our second transfer target - Kagawa, who else.

Ruhrnachrichten says the Ginter deal is almost done, we are still discussing the transfer fee but both sides agreed for the move.

Ramos, Ginter, Immobile and Kagawa? BRILLIANT transfer window.

But lets stay calm, plenty of rumours going around, Kicker is a reliable source but we can't get ahead of ourselves. We will see what happens.

 

No way are we gonna get Ramos, Ginter, Immobile and Kagawa in 1 transferwindow lol. I hope the Ginter deal goes on though, I think he'd be great for us.

 

It's the 2005 Liverpool rule.

 

Ginter deal MUST happen. Kagawa and Immobile would be great but again all emphasis on attacking players. Midfield needs to be reenforced, especially with Kehl age and possible Gündogan injuries.

And Immobile would be almost opposite of Ramos, more in-box type but infinitely better finisher. Good move.

 

I think that kicker have it the wong way round. Kagawa should be the main transfer target

 

Immobile said he would like to play for Dortmund when asked about Atletico/Dortmund wanting him.

 

Source?

 

A Dutch website which quoted the Süddeutsche Zeitung.

 

Only problem with Immobile is he's in one of those stupid Seria A co-ownership deals and the other owner is... Juventus. I'm not sure Juve would let him go so easily or cheaply to a potential CL rival.

Also he's definitely a great poacher/clinical finisher but from what my Italian friend tells me, his his linkup play/playmaking sucks meaning it would be a drastic change from what we have with Lewy now. Also Drmic is faster from what I've seen and will probably be cheaper and is 3 years younger. Immobile is 24, one year younger than Lewy and this is his first big number season in a top division. Not saying I wouldn't want him just there a re both pros and cons to both him and Drmic. Both have upside(much more than Ramos) but we can't be sure who will become the better player at this point. Honestly Zorc maybe should have went for Drmic and Immobile and should have passed on Ramos, all 3 have had their big breakout seasons this year yet one is 21 another 24 and the last 28.

 

This is exactly it. Why do we go from having 1 striker to 3!?!? I think the coaching staff wants to rotate and get these strikers to compete for a starting spot. In a way it makes sense Lewandowski was great at motivating himself and didn't need someone of the bench egging him on.

Immobile isn't all that immobile but he won't outpace Aubameyang....nobody in the BuLi can. But he is decent at hold up play, more suited to counter attacking football that Catania plays and he is also a dribbler, something we haven't had since Gotze left and his finishing is excellent.

His main weaknesses are that he doesn't have a ton of vision. I don't know if he has the intelligence to develop that chemistry with the rest of our squad.

 

Ducksch is rumored be loaned out to Frankfurt next season

Interesting since Klopp said Ducksch is in his plan, but obviously Watzke doesnt agree n he has proven it in his buying strategy

Sometimes a loan move makes postivite effect. Look at Lahm, Kroos, Lasogga n even Ginczek

With Ramos n Immobile/Drmic coming in, Ducksch will spend the entire season in 3BL which no longer helps him. Ducksch wont be used unless Dortmund think he is "proven" or "ready", but since Ducksch is not played by Dortmund he'll never be "ready". Playing well in 3BL proves nothing, but playing well for a 1BL/2BL club will be another story. Ginczek n Petersen managed to gain recognition n at least they were seen as "proven"


Maybe a move to a smaller club in 1BL/2BL is good for his development at this stage. Its so much better than rotten on Dortmund's bench, or playing 2 other seasons in 3BL which isnt very competitive n always battling against relegation.

I m expecting both Ramos n Immobile to play 40 plus games a season, some overlap as Klopp may play 2 strikers if needed. That isnt much left for a 3rd striker

http://www.bild.de/newsticker-meldungen/sport/12-bvb-ducksch-2589022.bild.html

 

Well he may be moving away so its part of the transfer thread too, no?

 

I think Liverpool is going to persuade Mkhitaryan to join them again. I always had a feeling that he preferred Liverpool but chose us because of CL football. I'd say if we can get 30M we let him go. He doesn't fit our squad tactically. We can give him another year but unless he excels tremendously I don't see a good sell-on value for him.

 

Almost 50% of United fans wanted Jurgen Klopp to be installed as the next coach for United. In reflection, I find it difficult to imagine our club without him. I can imagine life without Lewandowski, Watzke and of course Zorc but not Klopp. I just don't see him fitting in in a plastic club like United, City, Chelsea, PSG, Real or Bayern.

 

No way would Watzke look to sell Miki, that would be embarrassing for him (unless he made a windfall, and I doubt they would).


Plus, Mkhitaryan is a gun, just not a very good one right now. You'll see!

 

Interesting turn of events for you guys. This was reported during today's 11:30h SWR4 news, which is Baden-Württemberg's public service program.

 

This doesn't surprise me. Where would he play? We have Hummels, Subotic and Sokratis in CB (where I highly doubt we would play Ginter given his propensity to make the occasional mistake) while we have Sahin, Kehl, Kirsch, Gundogan, Bender and Jojic in CM (assuming none of the loanees or those with return clauses come back). It would be fantastic to sign Ginter but he needs to develop elsewhere. I can see him with us next year when we won't have Kehl and Kirsch anymore.