BVB General Transfer Thread III [R]

If Pep doesn't need to motivate these players how come they almost squandered 1st place in the CL? Against United they didn't show their superior strength late in the 2nd half of the tie. We shall see at the end of the season whether Bayern get the treble again but to suggest they'll win a hattrick of trebles is laughable.

 

Bayern doesnt really need to defend their treble to prove anything.
No club has ever succeeded in defending the CL never mind defending the treble and asking this Bayern to do this is simply asking them to prove they are the greatest team of the past 30yrs

 

Any chance Ramos won't stay for longer than 2 seasons? I mean the guy is 28 years old, and that's not really young, considering how young Lewi was!

 

Strootman was more an established player than Depay..Depay is more like a talent, were Strootman had a great u21 euros and stuff..

 

Huh? Do you mean that no club has ever defended a treble? Or that no club has ever defended their CL title?

 

No club has defended the CL in its current format

 

I suspect that José did not want to sell to a CL rival?

 

Memphis Depay is still a long way from being ready for the Dortmund level. Add to that a history of bad behavior, and that would be some gamble on Klopp/BVBs part.

 

That and according to media reports Mou wanted a Lewandowski / de Bruyne package deal.

 

While true, clubs have defended UEFA titles and domestic titles before. Not sure the current format makes this any more difficult.

 

Because in the past clubs had to come first in the league to qualify. They had to overcome teams 2-4 right there. Now, come fourth and play the other three and their equivalents in the CL. And before the 90s, clubs from a larger variety of countries made impressions in the european cup (and in the other two). That the CL is harder to win is an absolute backed by no conclusive evidence.

 

My point exactly. Bayern, Real, Ajax, etc., had a much more difficult time back in the day winning their domestic league back to back or the UEFA competitions.

 

He will be passable next season and won't be playable as a starter after next season

 

Defending a title is still defending a title...no?

 

Defending a European Cup title was harder because you had to win your league again, not simple finish in the top 3-4.

 

now you have to play the other 2-3 (or their equivalents from other leagues) in the CL and beat them to win the title.
Before the CL-era you had to beat them in the league and not face them in the EC.

Which is harder? Idk.

 

But back then, if you won the CL, you'd still be invited to return as returning champion. Actually, it is still the case. It happened to Chelsea when they knocked Spurz out and they finished fourth.

 

The rule change was because of Liverpool in 2005.

 

We are not talking pitfalls, we were talking repeat.

It is clearly harder to repeat domestic and league titles back before the current CL format then now. Look at Chelsea as an example. They would never had gotten to the final back then.

 

Didnt chelsea play in the europa liga last season?

 

After getting 3rd in their group behind Juventus and Shaktar...first champion not to qualify for the knockout stages the next season

 

Thanks