BVB General Transfer Thread III [R]

didn't someone recently on this thread point out that Ramos has put up better numbers than Lewa this season (except for goals scored).

I'm loving Miki's jump in form, I think he is going to be extremely good for the team. he's a beast (sometimes)

 

Hopefully he could be loaned to a Bundesliga side

 

Crap. Thats a bad sign. So yeah, he could probably leave after 2015 season ends. And probably he will. No need to think otherwise. Goddamnit! Our management board should prevent those kind of exodus in the near future ASAP. Every ********in year we loose one or two key players. Thats pain in the ass.

And I don't know what to think about Gundogan. Additional year on his contract is wise from him and BVB. But like you said, next year we could go through speculations over and over again.

 

Wasn't that common knowledge? Watzke called purchasing his exit clause the 'first and most important order of business' after the lost CL final in Wembley.

Then there was a BILD article in November/December which stated Reus refused another offer, etc.

The real surprising news is that his buy-out clause is at merely € 25m in 2015. That's only € 7m more than the one he had in Mönchengladbach. The agency of Götze, Kroos and Reus really knows how to milk and pressure the clubs for their own benefit.

 

I thought it was 35 mil.

 

I don't get your point with this comment. You said:

I pointed out clubs do...and very recently. I am sure it is far more common than you think.

 

That's what I thought as well, but there was a new report yesterday which suggests the release clause is merely at € 25m.

Here's an img. of the article from transfermarkt.de

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column in the middle, second-last paragraph:

The source is SportBild though, so take it with a grain of salt. Still, Watzke never confirmed the volume of the release clause, only the existence. We'll see how Watzke & Co. react to this, which might then allow us to judge the validity of the source.

 

The release clause is 35 million euros.

 

Reus said for sportbild: "Of course I have a career plan, and I have a valid contract... I have never spoken in public about the content of the contract. BVB is my club, Dortmund is my home. I came back here to win titles - so far nothing. I really feel very, very comfortable..."

It doesn't mean much, it's a sort of comment you would expect from a player, but I do hope he will stay a little longer if nothing else, he always seemed to me like someone who could be loyal. We shall see...

 

According to some media reports, the most recent media report says 25 million. Who knows which one is accurate. Watzke only confirmed that there is a release clause, nothing more.

 

I think it's 25m for most clubs, 35m for English clubs and 70m for Bayern.

 

I hope you're right, the media would be unbearable in case Reus joins Bayern München and Watzke would use this topic for the years to come...

 

I was kidding, of course. The press confirmed a while ago this clause does exist. Since he has resisted a buy out that means he wants to keep options open. Who wouldn't?

If he goes to Bayern, oh well. They need more Germans anyway.

 

I know. Considering Reus has the same agency as Götze, the release clause is most likely valid for interested parties from Germany and abroad.

Still, I wouldn't mind if he simply extended or went somewhere else. Two former Dortmund star players are more than enough already as far as I'm concerned.

 

That was just the most recent of which I was aware. I am sure if we dug we could find others.

According to my agent friend they are not all that rare either. Usually with hot, young talent who are looking for a performance incentive and the club in question may lack the funds to give money for performance so they build these in the first year contract. I understand Ott has one with FCN.

Correct, but these are two different things. One is a club accepting an offer on a player without a buy out clause. The second is a buy out clause between transfer windows which would allow a player to accept an offer from any club without having the consent of his current club.

 

No clue. Would have to do some research. The ones I mention come to mind because they are very recent. We agree that these clauses are not typically used by richer clubs. I think I said as much at the beginning. I suspect based on what my friends in-the-know tell me, these clauses are fairly "boilerplate" for young players and with certain clubs. You are right that Bayern or BVB or Schalke or even Wolfsburg are not likely to give these.

 

I think most players have immediate exit clauses in case the club relegates.

 

Big players, yes. Many contracts for the BL are good for the 2.BL too.

 

If their contracts weren't valid for the 2nd division, why pay a transfer fee at all? Most pkayers have valid contracts for both divisions, but a lot of them also have exit clauses in case their team relegates.