BVB General Transfer Thread III [R]

Any realistic chances that Reus could sign a new contract without a buyout clause?

 

And if you had seen him play, so would you

 

Naw man, me and Schmelzer definitely.

 

The Left-Nut of Jupp goes through phases...like with girlfriends. It was Kroos for a while, then "I <3 Goetze" sig for ever, the Kagawa...lol.

 

I have no problem with selling Reus and Hummels if they want to leave for money. If we are going to break our salary structure to compensate them we are going to go down a slippery slope. Our core competencies are our youth development, coaching staff and scouting. Marketing, sales development, medical and prudent finance planning are our weaknesses....at least now they are but they might change in time.

If we keep a strong rotating core of players who can consistently take us deep into the CL and pokal while we perennially sustain a shot at getting the BuLi title we will become a super power. Sounds laughable but other clubs got there so why not us. Having a behemoth like Bayern keep us on our toes is actually a very good thing for us. We will have to continuously strive to improve. This is probably what got Madrid and Barcelona where they are today albeit a somewhat unhealthy juxtapose but all is not utopia in the real world anyway.

I think as fans we should value the individual players less and more the club's philosophy and strategy for growth. The players don't make us, we make them. Sadly, there will come a time when we no longer have the luxury of cultivating players. CL runs will be an expectation, not a goal. Until that creeps up on us, we should enjoy the club for what it is today.

 

Imagine if Gundogan had a release clause last year in his contract and Bayern activated that instead of Gotze's. Hell, they would have had the money to activate both their release clauses.

Anyway, I just hope Gundogan recovers and has a decent career with us before he leaves or hangs it up.

 

Didn't Borussia recently get an Award for their marketing or for something similar? Like best/most popular brand in German football...? I think they do a pretty decent job of it to be honest. And prudent financial planning, hasn't everyone been complaining that they are too prudent? (or is this your point?)

 

I'm all for being fiscally conservative with BvB's money...but I also think they should roll the dice at what is a calculated risk when an opportunity may arise.

 

An award doesn't translate to money. I'd rather make 30M more in revenue than win a bunch of those awards.

Prudent financial planning doesn't mean frugal spending. It means spending the right amount of money on acquiring or maintain the right asset that will help us take the next step in the right direction both on and off the pitch.

 

I can't blame Reus. After seeing Gotze go from 4M to 8M or more it's a bit of a stretch to expect him to only go up to 5M or even 6M. I can't imagine BVB offering him any more.

 

Madrid got where they are because of Franco, Barcelona got to where it is (in modern terms) off of the purchase of Johan Cruyff who took a team who hadn't won in a long time (compared to Real Madrid) and made them the best eam in Spain. In the pre-premier league era the 2 clubs that spent the most on players were Manchester United and Liverpool, Chelsea has Roman, City (qatar), and pre Chelsea, and Wenger revolutionized English football.....

The problem is if you can't keep your best player your club will have no identity or foundation and will have to change every year...when you are loosing your better players you can't build anything which is why the last 2 seasons Dortmund's squad has gotten worse...wait till you see Adrian Ramos and Miki try to break down a deep defense

 

A deep and well structured defense is the work of a good coach and the defensive unit. Subsequently, it is upto the attacking unit to break it down. It requires excellent dribbling skills, passing accuracy, timed runs and measured anticipation. Most importantly it needs chemistry. I wasn't a fan of signing either of those players you mentioned. But to write them off as having no chemistry at all before they've even had a chance to don the same jersey sounds ludicrous, don't you think? They aren't just top players in their teams but amongst the top 10 statistically in the league.

 

Genuine query, not being a smart arse, I'm just curious about what you mean here? (bold). I'm wondering how Chelsea revolutionised English Football (did you mean pre Roman?)...may have misunderstood your post.

 

Pre Raneiri

 

It is as irrelevant as your comment about kagawa then. Duksch and volland are not players who have proven themselves here. Understand why I made the comment?

It is not my fault thatyou get defensive about it. So just say, if you may, were you watching at that time?

 

löwenboy and I were having a mini-talk. players who could be useful for bvb was the topic. "Man-crushes" was a joke. Therefore, unless you were joking the comment about kagawa is not relevant as kagawa is beyond proven at bvb.

Why are you being so defensive about when you started watching? I started watching closely in 93 or 94.

 

It's not about having chemistry...its about having the skill set required to work with little to no space...both of their games really aren't built for that, they are both very good players when they have the ability to use their athleticism and stretch their legs...teams have figured out how to control Dortmund's transition game...by just not letting them have the opportunity and space to press and transition...and it seems that Klopp and the board, instead of adjusting to the new reality are being stubborn and their are no better examples on the current squad than Miki and going from Lewandowski who is the second most creative CF in the world (only Zlatan is better) to Adrian Ramos (who is a runner) and in the 2nd half of the season has only scored 5 goals...

 

can you elaborate? Sorry to be a pain, but sounds interesting.

 

2nd striker we sign better be versatile. Ramos is signed for 11mil and may well be playign 40 games a season given his durability n health

Drmic is ok as he can play both CF n RW, but his playing time still doubtful due to competition. And one season is too small a sample size to reflect his capabilities. We saw that in Lakic before, one -season-wonder?

BTW, Frankfurt, Koeln, Kaiserslautern and Freiburg are interested in making a loan move for Ducksch. Maybe a good deal for all three parties