BVB General Transfer Thread III [R]

Nah. They at least use some imagination for the "Lewa to Bayern" stuff.

With Dzeko, it is the same old transfer rumor formula:

"Former very good Bundesliga striker
+
Less than perfect current situation
+
Open(ing) spot at big Bundesliga club = Easy Transfer Rumor"

See? Lazy! LOL!!

 

LMAO!! Good one man!!

 

Zorc confirms what we already knew.......



Borussia Dortmund Confirms Lewandowski Exit





The German side's sporting director Michael Zorc reveals that the forward will not extend his current deal, and is likely to leave at the end of the season or the summer of 2014.


"Robert will not renew his contract, he will leave either this summer or in the summer of 2014," he said.

Click here for the entire Goal.com article.

 

I am not saying what Schieber will be. I don't know.

But your words are almost exactly the doubts people had about Lewandowski when Klopp made him the starter over Barrios........

To show you I'm not just a "Schieber fan", I said since we found out what he cost that BVB paid way too much for him. I also don't believe he's the answer based on what we've seen so far.

But things can change. I'm not saying they will, but they can.......

 

Props on the Delron Buckley reference! LOL!!

 

Our management team is good at playing these things pretty close to the vest. They don't let much get out. I think Lewandowski was the most "public" signing we've made in a long time.

I wouldn't look for any name to become a true "leading choice" before sometime in late April.......

 

If we truly have aspirations of being a contender for the BL title, CL title and German Cup, I don't think we can chance not bringing in a striker who at least SHOULD succeed. The key is not breaking the bank to do it.


I honestly believe we can only go so far if we're going to strictly stick to our current philosophy. Even back when I was ripping people here for whining about BVB not spending big money, I agreed with them that the time was coming when the club has to spend more than it does.


I believe that time is nearly upon us. Maybe it is already. They did spend too much on Schieber. However, I don't htink that was truly a break from the philosophy more than just a mistake. Not a "mistake" in bringing Schieber in, but a "mistake" in how much we paid Stuttgart for Schieber. I love the kid, but I think our guys were far too influenced with the super few minutes Scheiber had against us last season......


Again, I am not saying we should start "breaking the bank" for players. But to get the players we need, BVB management is to the point where they are going to have to decide whether they want to stick with their stringent finanical plan no matter what, or tweak it some to bring in the players/depth we're going to need to consistently compete with the likes of Bayern.

It isn't always about keeping the names you have. But with BVB's philosophy, it will become about how attractive we are......

 

He's one I want to see more of with BVB II first.......

 

Yes. This is what both Lewandowski and Lucas Barrios learned to do quite well.

It is also something I believe Scheiber is having some difficulty with so far........

This is exactly the reason Mandzukic is having the season he's having. I hope people have noticed Bayern is playing more like us these days. I mean tactically. Gomez is a striker who can help that game, but can't do much of it. It hurts his game. He's a poacher. What's bad for us is that Julian Schieber is also a poacher. Not a great fit for our offense.

Still, I hope he can learn to do this job adequately. We score so much from midfield that our striker doesn't have to be a superstar. But he has to be good enough for the opposing coach to worry about. He has to be good enough for the danger of his play to help open things up for the attacking midfielders.

Rudnevs was linked with us before he signed with HSV. However, with Lewandowski on board and BVB still thinking he would extend, going hard after Rudnevs didn't make sense.

I don't believe he's a realistic option as HSV isn't going to sell him to us. They just got him and he's under contract through 2016.

 

You know what you just referred to?

THE WAY KLOPP IS ASKING HIM TO PLAY!

Did you watch Schieber coming up at Stuttgart and during his loan at FCN?

If you did, you'd know what I'm talking about.

Klopp and BVB have asked Schieber to completely change his style of play. This is one of the major reasons he's having difficulties.

Before joining us Schieber was always more of a "Gomez-type." Always had been.

And BTW, I didn't say he was a good poacher. But this had always been his game. Always.

 

Dude. I think I'm somehow confusing you. Because it seems you're reading what I'm saying backwards. I also really don't appreciate you inplying that I'm somehow lacking in football knowledge. Of course I know that a classic definition of a "poacher" is.

I said Klopp has asked Schieber to change his game. Which is that of a poacher. Meaning, Schieber's natural game is that of a poacher and Klopp is asking him to be different. Which you confirmed with your own words man!

I thought I was clear that Klopp and BVB have asked Schieber to change his natural game. Maybe I wasn't. I'm sure I was.

Yes, there is a big difference between what Schieber is and what Klopp is asking him to do.

That's what I've meant when I said this is one of the major reasons Schieber is having difficulties.

I think you somehow missed it when I wrote:

"Klopp and BVB have asked Schieber to completely change his style of play. This is one of the major reasons he's having difficulties."

Perhaps this part confused you:

"Before joining us Schieber was always more of a "Gomez-type." Always had been.

And BTW, I didn't say he was a good poacher. But this had always been his game. Always."

In those statements, the key words are "was", "had been" (after "always") and "had always been."

Those words clearly identify the past tense. I see if you only read my final sentence where the words "I didn't say he was a good poacher" may have confused you. However, if those words confused you, this tells me you either didn't read or put no stock in everything which was said before.




Is this where I lost you??

 

Maybe I missed this before, but how do fans in Poland view Robert? Is Kuba still more popular there too??

Me too. But I also can't blame Robert for wanting to get paid at his true market value.

I don't see it happening then. Robert is not in a position to totally dictate to BVB where he wants to go if BVB is serious about being willing to forsake a big transfer fee to make Robert play out the final year of his contract and move on a free the season after. Also, I don't believe Bayern will "break the bank" for a guy they truly don't need. They only did it for Javi Martinez because they needed someone who could break our previous midfield superiority over them.

I truly believe if Bayern spends a huge amount on a striker it will not be Robert. I think if this happens the striker they get will be either Neymar or David Villa.

I think this rumor is media fantasy. SAF dismissed the Robert to Manchester United rumors long ago and there is no reason not to believe him. I believe Manchester United did have interest in Robert before they bought Robin van Persie. With van Persie on board and now Kagawa possibly having found himself, Manchester United needs Robert like they need a hole in the head. If SAF bids for any BVB player, he'd better be trying to get Bender, Subotic or Hummels. None of whom BVB will ever sell to him.......

Sorry man, but that ship has sailed.

I really think you're wasting your time hoping for this. Robert is leaving. His agent has all but used those words and BVB has already said he will be leaving. It is a sad ending for us, but this is how the business within the game works these days........

 

Thank you for this information. Yes, it could mean anything or it could mean nothing.

Watzke talked about bettering our depth before the winter transfer window and did nothing. We'll see what they do come June and July.