BSMX's Official Mexican National Team Random Thoughts Thread vol. II

Discussion in 'Mexico National Team' started by DGreat, Feb 17, 2014.

  1. Miguel Myers

    Miguel Myers Member+

    Dec 3, 2011
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Done
     
  2. Baysic

    Baysic Member+

    Jun 11, 2009
    The Bay Area, CA
    Club:
    Club América
    I'm one of the leon midgets biggest haters, but vasquez also had one hell of a game against them.....that pretty much by himself did all the recovery work in the midfield leaving gullit and montes to attack all game.

    I still think there's a level where they cant compete physically.
     
  3. elmaestro2

    elmaestro2 Member+

    Apr 6, 2006
    Chicago(west burbs)
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Some comparisons going on about world cup 98 vs. Mexico 2014. What do you guys think about the starter comparison? At first glance '98 looks stronger imo.

    98
    GK: Campos
    D: Suarez, Carmona, Joel Sanchez, Davino
    MF:Villa, Ramirez, Garcia Aspe, B. Luna
    F: Matador, Cuahtemoc

    2014 (predicted)
    GK: Ochoa
    D:Aguilar, Reyes, Marquez, Moreno, Layun
    MF: Medina, Herrera, Gullit
    F: Oribe, Gio
     
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  4. gvazqu1

    gvazqu1 Member

    Aug 12, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    The 2014 version has more talent. But the '98 version has what we have lacked the most in 2013/14....huevos.
     
  5. elmaestro2

    elmaestro2 Member+

    Apr 6, 2006
    Chicago(west burbs)
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Not sure If I agree on the talent. As much as I want us to have more talent now I just don't see it. Ramon Ramirez was in his prime, as was Garcia Aspe.

    Even our forwards, who are our current strength, aren't better. I'd take Matador and Blanco over our current forwards.
     
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  6. gvazqu1

    gvazqu1 Member

    Aug 12, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Negro And Montes are fine players the league. They can't compete at the international level. Rewatch the Nigeria game. Can't afford to have these two steamrolled by the Cameroonians.
     
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  7. Kaney

    Kaney Sleeping Dragon
    Staff Member

    Dec 12, 2005
    Lake County, IL AKA Southern Wisconsin
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Competent coaching is a bigger need than huevos.

    The problem in Mexico is the mentality that if we fail, it's because we lack huevos.

    The reality is that the coaches are tactically inept and select their buddies instead of the 11 best players (23 best players).

    Sure, there are times when guys seem timid with the NT. But to me that is because the coaches didn't know how to use them to their strengths. Hector Herrera comes to mind.
     
  8. metalmaster

    metalmaster Member+

    Jul 7, 2004
    In the wrong hood
    Club:
    Hakoah Maccabi Ramat Gan
    Huevos is the most overrated word in Mexican futbol. Talented players have confidence, huevos is secondary. A competent coach plus talented players is what you need.
     
  9. gvazqu1

    gvazqu1 Member

    Aug 12, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    For sure they need a better coach...but not much that they (the players) can do about that now. As for talent... on the day of the game you have it or you don't.

    I'm still shaking my head at the way they played the game @CRC.
    They were being eliminated form the WC and they had no fight in them. That was ********ing shameful.
     
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  10. Kaney

    Kaney Sleeping Dragon
    Staff Member

    Dec 12, 2005
    Lake County, IL AKA Southern Wisconsin
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    It was the weight of repeated setbacks under incompetent leadership.
     
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  11. ...In my defense

    Feb 11, 2006
    The aura around the team was extremely negative and this is where I agree with pundits like de Anda and Juan Carlos where the media played a large role in raising the expectations of the fans and then piling on the pressure on the players and coaching staff.

    It was certainly a pathetic performance in Costa Rica but it wasn't surprising that the team crumbled.
     
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  12. gvazqu1

    gvazqu1 Member

    Aug 12, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    So you think that Cuah and El Matador se hubieran achicado asi? Or El Emperador or Ramirez/Villa/Garcia Aspe.

    Well ... I think media or no media we all expect MEX to qualify for the WC. The expectation to finish 1st in the group was looooooong gone by then.

    Anyhow...don't want to derail the thread.
     
  13. elvasco

    elvasco 100% Americanista

    Sep 10, 2006
    How are you derailing the thread if u are talking about the national team.
     
  14. Kaney

    Kaney Sleeping Dragon
    Staff Member

    Dec 12, 2005
    Lake County, IL AKA Southern Wisconsin
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    If Cuauh/Matador/Ramirez/etc. were constantly tinkered with and played out of position against their strengths, I think they would have eventually gotten frustrated enough to the point where they would no longer be effective. How it would have manifested itself is irrelevant.
     
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  15. elvasco

    elvasco 100% Americanista

    Sep 10, 2006
    Other than a few players they didn't had much "huevos" either I mean fawking Claudio Suarez was a total pussy specially for a cb don't remember check the Belgium goals.
     
  16. gvazqu1

    gvazqu1 Member

    Aug 12, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Rehashing shit that has been talked about ad nauseam in BSMX.
     
  17. gvazqu1

    gvazqu1 Member

    Aug 12, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Defense was very weak. I agree.
     
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  18. Lalo37

    Lalo37 Member+

    Jan 29, 2010
    Minneapolis, MN
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    And steamrolled these slow midgets will get. Mind boggling how a coach cannot see that.
     
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  19. Clo5er

    Clo5er New Member

    Apr 15, 2014
    Club:
    Club América
    The 98 team was awsome ..who can forgete those blanco and matador golazos
     
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  20. Saul Acosta

    Saul Acosta Member

    May 11, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Whats Mind Boggling is that is all we have, at the moment and in form
     
  21. Rafael Hernandez

    Rafael Hernandez Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 6, 2002
    By the dumb logic many mexicans use, that is exactly what they did 4 years later in South Korea (except for the guys who weren't there).
     
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  22. Majin

    Majin Member+

    Arsenal
    Mexico
    May 7, 2013
    Zacatecas
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    modric talking about our NT {via. @ FutMexSource}



    edit: He thinks our league isn't competitive :speechless:
     
  23. Talisman

    Talisman Member+

    Aug 5, 2011
    Stamford, CT
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    I agree with Modric about our league. :coffee:
     
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  24. GrandeSoccer

    GrandeSoccer Member+

    Jun 20, 2010
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    he thinks Rafa is still playing in MLS :whistling:
     
  25. TGO

    TGO Member+

    Jul 4, 2011
    Modric said "..maybe he (Rafa) is not playing...in a competitive league...like he used to play but he is still an important player for Mexico..."

    He isn't putting down Liga MX. But he's basically saying Liga BBVA > Liga MX.

    Which is true.
     

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