BSMX's Official GOP Thread: The Search for More Money

The naivety of a child. It's a precious thing to see. Just not in grown men.
Chips on shoulders fuel people. It's gotten me to where I am in a certain sense.

Are you really that cynical? I feel sorry for you. I really do.

Maybe you can enlighten me why you feel this way by letting us know "where you are?"

If you showed the same disdain for the Dems (lobbying, guantanamo, cronyism, failed economy, etc) and would hold them to the exact same standards.... I would believe you...which makes you full of sh1t

I can think on my own too.... I can choose not to get suckered into a wedge issue (immigration) and get duped that all of the other side are a bunch of white anglo saxon racists that hate blacks and Mexicans.

I can think on my own and see that the Dems, who have an incessant hatred for the rich...are rich as well..... and they too don't want to pay their share....

that's great, because neither do I.

6 months after my HS graduation, daddy and mommy leave the country and have worked international assignments since...... Aside from the year I went to study in Mexico while he was on assignment there, if you add the time we have spend together (vacation), it probably wouldn't even add up to 360 days. I wonder when, where, and how daddy has had the time to fly back from Asia, Africa, Europe, South America to help me? We chose two completely different career paths.... We even have two different political ideologies... go figure...

A cynic or a naive child? I'll take the lesser of two evils thank you very much.

And I don't think it would be best to talk about myself. I mean I'm clearly full of myself but I don't think it would be proper. Suffice it to say that I'm a 22 year old dreamer.

Keep on dreaming then.... and when you need advice to make your dreams come true, follow the advice in this thread, the same advice I'm giving to my daughters then come back and tell me if I was naive.

Good luck.

You can't teach an old dog new tricks.

22 seems a bit old to change course entirely. Guess I'll just have to follow the path I've been treading all these years. It's worked so far.

But good luck!

22 is young as hell. You will learn a lot from now until you're Metalmaster's age.

Hahaha..... but actually I'm lumped right there with Metalmaster on this one. I know what it's like to not have electricity. El rancho no tenia luz!

he considers himself a democrat. He onces asked me why I opt for the GOP... my answer was simple "because of the way you raised me" I would remind him comments he would say like

"el que no quiere trabajar y salir adelante, que se muera de hambre"

"99% de los empleados valen pa pura chingada. pocos son los profesionistas que viven, comen, y duermen de su trabajo"

"no me importa si tiene talente o que sea inteligente.... dame un guey con huevos y que no se raje"

I even reminded him of an instance after he took me to watch a Stallone movie where Stallone said "the world meets nobody halfway"

Perhaps you see a pattern as to why I hate social welfare and why I have a problem with the employee mentality...... perhaps the dems from my father's generation were like minded.... but I don't see it anymore.

It boils my blood to see an able body live off welfare. Like a stray dog, if it finds a place where it can feed for free, it will never leave. It will have a litter before your very eyes and it will want to be fed as well. Perhaps my choice of words are not correct, but that is how I feel. I have ZERO sympathy for it.

If everyone pulled their own weight, took responsibility for their own actions, planned their future as best as possible, most of today's problems would work itself naturally. But certain people want the victim mentality to continue.

I actually don't spend a lot of time looking for articles that portray the other side in a fairly negative fashion. The difference is that most of you guys don't venture out and read opposing views because you discredit it without reading it.

Have I not said in the past "trust a crook, because you know what he will do"

My stance is that I know what I will get with them and I know they wont pander to me for my vote. It is what it is.... you take the good and the bad together.... they are not going to go one weekend and pander to labor unions about protecting PLAs, only to go the following week pander to immigrant organizations about getting them proper documentation so they can work and under cut union wages...

what has he not done right? and is his economic track record sufficient for re-election considering we are not fighting two wars anymore and that 85% of the TARP funds have been paid back....with all that money not going away to fund a war (in Iraq) and getting our IOU's back..... why don't we have the money to spend on infrastructure....

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/05/23/11831077-obama-leads-big-with-latinos?lite

I guess your parents grew up. I bet they realized that not everybody is the same, and thus they are more at peace.

your comments about if everyone pulled their own weight, life will be a paradise, really comes down to "if nobody made mistakes, or were able to have the uncanny talent to foresee disasters in the horizon, most of todays problems would work itself naturally"

that's alot of wishful thinking that you like to live on, and judge people on.

just cuz it worked for you, it doesnt mean it will for everybody.

It is a fact that we govern our own thoughts and that we control our own actions. What separates us from the animal kingdom is our ability to plan and think ahead. This is the God given/Evolution given gift that our ancestors have given us over a couple of millions of years. Personally, I find this gift amazing.

To denote that "a lot of it is luck" and this foolish theory that hard work is "wishful thinking" is to discharge your own responsibility to what you can control and govern on things that you absolutely have no control over. Pardon me, but that is cowardly.

Truth be told, luck, perfect timing, and things that are simply beyond your control are a part of it. I'm not in disagreement there whatsoever. Life isn't fair and if a tragedy strikes that sets you back or there are circumstances that set you back, you still have a choice. I'm not looking down upon those that have less than me or are less accomplished than me because there are a plethora of people that have more or are more accomplished. That isn't the point. I do, however, severly critique those that have discharged their personal responsibilties to others and expect to have other people, especially a ton that are no better off than them pay for their existences. That I cannot support.

There have to be social safety nets. I am not arguing that. The question is, how do you separate the truly needy from those scamming the system (and there are a ton of them). I don't know if there is an answer. And for the record, I do believe that our budget is unsustainable with tax breaks that benefit less and less people and our Department of Defense budget is out of control. What I don't support is simply giving away the surplus when tax breaks are weakened, when we realize that we can't be the world's policeman, without letting the populace EARN that surplus. Simply giving it away will not help anybody out. This is where I differ with failed Democratic policy on simply giving things away. It doesn't work.

Right on point. In my opinion instead of spending billions on spying on people domestically and other idiotic programs, the government should find a way to stop the abuse of these programs. I am not against welfare for people that are really in need, I'm against people who cheat the system and corporate welfare.
I know this guy who is currently a free education at Berkley, working on his masters. He is a Mechanical Engineer, was making good money, owns a home. And still somehow he got a free ticket. That kind of thing irks me, because I know there is some kid out there who is being denied that help and really needs it.
We give a shitload of money to other countries, regardless of what party is in charge, that also has to stop. Defense budget is the big thing though, but hey won't do anything about it. Too many interests at play here.

some people think, that you have full control of your life. but in reality you are more dependent on your environment that they would like to admit.

and everything tio said.

but like most people here in the US, everybody benefited from the government's tit. they went to public school, their houses were protected by police who were on tax payers dollars, they drove to that school on paved roads. ect ect.... so now they became an albanil and got their degree and now they think because now they are making their own money they shouldnt pay for the next guy that comes along? thats insulting.


the people who are more successful, are the ones who definitely benefited from the government's tit, and they should be the one paying more taxes, so the next person can come along and do the same as he did.

Is this guy also a librarian?

And yet this wonderfully inspiring view of the world that you have is mediated by your life experiences. Maybe RDL is right in that regard, maybe we do need to see the world in order to realize that the opinions we hold are often times nothing more than feel good constructs that we make for ourselves. Am I a cynic? Probably. I'm a Catholic after all. The world is a terrible place full of terrible people, that doesn't mean I've given up on humanity. At the end of it all who is more of a cynic--the person who assumes the worst in a man? Or the person who assumes to know nothing?

It's funny how issues we problematize can be boiled down to a simple interaction with a homeless man.

We have an entirely different outlook on life. And that's quite all right. You chase your dreams, and I'll chase mine.

I don't know where most republicans get the idea that us democrats don't believe in hard work , Being committed to our jobs and believing that working hard is the way to prosper in life .
Don't come with bullshit and make it seem like you have to be a republican to be a hard worker individual that's successful in life ,
It's simple, Most democrats do support social programs for those who really need it , sure it's not a perfect system there's people who abuse the system and in my opinion they should be punished to the full extent of the law ,I think if someone hit rock bottom it's only fair to help them back on their feet which is why I support Obama's unemployement benefits as well, Most of us support universal health care but that's because we also pay taxes we believe our tax money should be used for our interest and starting useless wars is not in our interest, Would you guys rather see all them billions of dollars be used in Iraq?
And lastly I think the defense budget is too large .

true dat

never thought I would see the day where asking for people to pull their own weight and taking responsibility for one's own actions would be a burden or worse---an insult.... as if I am the 4sshole for saying it...

Paying a fair share of taxes is taking responsibility . Other than that everyone pulls their own weight on this nation . If you don't work you'll likely be homeless. Some take so much advatange of the system " octomon" and like all democrats we believe she should be jailed ,
No one makes it alone on this nation . As much as less government you want it will never happen in USA.