I was wondering why it seemed like you were talking to yourself ... Anyways, one reason that part performance is not an indicator of future results is that the real estate market is always shifting. Perhaps when previous attempts were made, there was never an ideal site available. For example the current Bronx site is only up for grabs recently as their finances are failing, and the team is fortunate that GAL is willing to sell. In another 5 years perhaps that site goes away, but others open up? Especially in as complicated real estate market as NYC, I don't think history can be taken as a given. For example perhaps there were a number of great sites last go round, but they were just beyond the maximum budget at the time? We'll never know.
Big Soccer Apple reported New York City FC expects to make an announcement on Monday, April 21st, in regarding to their temporary home at the Yankees Stadium. STADIUM ANNOUNCEMENT NYC FC officially expected to make Yankee Stadium as its temporary home on Monday [April 17, 2014] http://www.bigapplesoccer.com/teams/nycfc2.php?article_id=36719
Has NYCFC ever played the "tourist" card to help them with the stadium? IOW, get the hotel, theater and restaurant moguls to back up the new stadium with projections of more tourists coming to NYC.
where even a staunch supporter of rba as the better soccer venue is forced to admit that this sort of thing gets done only if you're in nyc, fwiw.
Also lets not forget the prestige card. A major league team would increase NYC national profile and media attention, which will help attract young professionals and businesses.
Nah, no city in the world cares less about the "tourist card" than NYC, and no American city needs less help to "attract young professionals and businesses" Anything less than NYCFC's wildest projection is at best a rounding error in the total NYC tourism and branding industry. The freakin Superbowl came to the city and most people barely noticed. There's more happening in NYC in a single night than most cities have in a month, in addition to marquee teams in every other major sport (though the nets and knicks might be putting a lie to that atm, i donno) Not to say they are not wanted or that their potential is unrecognized, but I doubt anyone has any desire to stick their neck out for yet another attraction.
We were messing about. Come one. When two people are discussing ways to advertise New York City, how can you think that's serious.
Not sure what this exactly means Blau Weiss Gottschee had some sort of agreement with the nasl cosmos for a couple of years and before that (I believe?) had some branding relationship with Chelsea FC. A real working relationship tied into a new academy structure or just some Middle East bucks to sport the logo...we'll see. Though even the latter with hundreds of kids indeed sporting the logo ain't bad...
It means players for these 8 affiliates will be eligible for Home Grown contracts with NYCFC. As it progresses, these clubs will probably act more as talent identifiers to feed into NYCFC's academy.
When did the Super Bowl come to "the city"? I thought the whole point of NYCFC was that anything outside of the five boroughs (e.g. RBA) wasn't "the city"? Or did people barely notice the Super Bowl because it didn't come to the "the city"? The game did effectively shut down transit to and from Jersey when people came and went that night, so I'm guessing some people noticed; I understand that NYC doesn't need help when it comes to tourism, I just don't understand how NJ is considered "the city" for one thing but not for another.
The Jets and Giants are NYC teams because Football. I think it's clear that an event or organization is as much a part of "the city" as people choose it to be and as much as marketing is successful as branding it as. IMO it's not that Harrison can't be in the city, it's that NYRB has failed to resonate to the extent that MLS chose to give it another shot in the form of NYCFC. My comment about the superbowl was less about the game than it was that the NFL took over times square and a number of other prominent spaces and barely dented the day to day lives of most residents. This is in comparison to every other city where they totally dominate the city and are the focus of everyone's attention whether they want it or not.
Well based on the press conference that NYCFC just had to announce playing in YS two things are clear: There is no news on the SSS front and the agreement to play in YS is opened ended and not set at 3 years. Buckle up.
I don't know. That isn't my place to decide. I was just passing on the news from the news conference.
Eventually that SSS will be built in the place where those car garages are now--but as to how long that is going to take--well who knows? Yankee Stadium is better than nothing i suppose, but it is a less than ideal longterm solution.
so about 33,000 capacity for games. Yankee Stadium holds about 50,000. You guys think that is all but the upper deck?
They said in the press conference what seats specifically would be closed for NYCFC games. I am not familiar with YS so I didn't know what he was talking about. I took it to mean he was talking about the seats behind home plate that would be furthest from the soccer pitch. Pretty confident they didn't say they would be closing the upper deck.
If you read the press release closely, there is something very important that has been tucked away, unnoticed by most: Look at the article from mlssoccer.com (http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/artic...unce-yankee-stadium-be-home-field-2015-season) They're conducting a "search" - that could very well imply the Bronx stadium deal is dead and they're looking at other locations. Well, with the news that "no timetable" is being set for the Yankee Stadium temp. location and without any concrete news on the "new stadium," I think it is fairly safe to say that the "negotiations/dialogue" regarding the SSS in the Bronx are not going smoothly. NYCFC will likely stay in Yankee until the political climate changes. Meaning it will take a new mayor giving millions of taxpayer dollars (or a sudden change of heart) to get that stadium built. Of course, the owners could just pay for everything without subsidies, but there's a reason why rich people stay rich and it's not because they want to spend more than necessary. Another option would be a location outside of what the press conference called "New York City proper" but it seems that the only major selling point this whole entire franchise has, is a stadium within the five boroughs.
No, according to some here on BS this means they are pretty much done with the stadium negotiations and will be breaking ground in a month or two. NYCFC just isn't telling anyone that they are this close. I completely agree with you by the way, but I have been called a pessimist for saying no news is not good news in this case.
Nope. They have said this same line all along. Even when the news broke in December that "they were close to scoring a $400m Stadium" the club never commented on that and continued to say they are conducting a search and are looking at numerous sites. Nothing has changed.
the fact that ys is not capped at three years imo is actually good news, even if as a soccer venue it does nothing for soccer fans. as in, 'we're going to do it right, and we're not going anywhere in the meantime.' now let's hope they stick to it.
So, are you suggesting that they never considered a Bronx location? It doesn't make sense to say, we are conducting a "search" when you are "negotiating." I could understand someone saying - no comment. But to say the word "search" indicates to me that you either believe: 1) That NYCFC is lying about searching 2) They never had settled on any site, including the Bronx
I am not saying they never considered the Bronx location (with all the third-party info it's obvious that they have) and in fact I still believe that is probably the main focus of the search at this point still. However I am sure they at least either have a plan b or even may have their eyes on another location which may be better for them. So: 1) They are not lying as up until they actually sign an official deal for the Bronx site, they should at least be looking for another site either as a "plan b" or maybe even a better site somehow comes along. 2) It depends on what you consider "settled". They likely see the site as a solid option and are pressing to get a deal done, but are open to other sites at the same time if it does not work out. I personally believe that the Yankees had this site in mind when they started this whole thing. I don't really see the need for them to be a part of this club other than to get a stadium built and be an overall improvement to their "neighborhood". I'm thinking either a) The Yankees were looking to bailout the garages and found MLS to be a suitable fix, then approached MLS/MCFC or b) MLS/MCFC saw the opportunity and decided to approach the Yankees. As soon as they announced NYCFC, I believe the focus was on this Bronx site. It seems as though they gave up on the FMCP site way too easily. Obviously I am no insider and could be way off base, but that is how I imagine things went down behind the scenes.