valid point, all i can say as a response is that i've seen van der sar and even buffon make mistakes too. helton is doing something right to have kept his job with porto since 2005.
He is doing something right -- he's playing in the Portuguese league, where he faces competition equivalent of lower tier Brazilian league sides, if not worse. Helton's situation is very similar to Gomes when he was playing at PSV. Holland is a very comparable league to the Portuguese league in terms of quality. Gomes was literally an idol of PSV fans. When he made the move to England, he was exposed as a farce. If Helton can't step up in the big games (i.e Champions League), why the heck would anyone entrust him as a keeper for the World Cup?
I'm a Vasco Fan.. and I rather take Fernando Prass... he's 10000000000x better than Helton. Actually best GKs from Brazil Currently you have to put Prass on top 5.
It's one thing to take veterans that are willing to sit on the bench, to take somebody like Ronaldinho, Lucio or Julio Cesar it means they'll get the start over better players because they are veterans. If they are taking the position of a player which is better than him.. quality is going down and not up. If you really want to take veterans, take players that will be willing to sit on the bench but be a great example. But most of you guys also understand that for the players which are in the NT 95% of them are great examples.... most of them can cope with the pressure of being up there and the reason they made it up there is because they go into every game not feeling that pressure and performing on top level. You really think Neymar will have a hard time with the media?
Diego Cavarelhe has been superb - the best goalie in Brasileirao by far. Kaka, brillant performance yesterday and not only as a starter, but AS CAPTAIN of RM! Definately will be in there with Felipao.
Diego Cavallieri won the Brasileirao... that's not the same as being the best GK... Prass has been excellent for 3 years now. Everyone wanted Cassio from Corinthians to be in the NT because of the Libertadores, but he's not a top GK Fabio, Prass and Jefferson are There's a reason he had the most # difficult saves in this years Brasileirao.
DC was also voted by all coaches as the goalie of the year in the Brasileirao, and made the Brasileirao Selecao of 2012. His performnace was brilliant and I continue to state - by far the best goalie in Brasil this year. But..........will Bruno be aquitted and come back?? That would be something wouldn't it?
I was about to mention that if Bruno had half a brain, he'd be in the conversation of GKs now. But he chose to throw that all away. Even if he is acquitted, he doesn't stand a chance.
The new president of Flamengo as well as Zinho as well as Zico as well as numerous journalists have all said that if Bruno is acquitted, not only will he return to Flamengo, but a 4 Million Reais debt to Bruno from Flamengo under the contract will have to be settled. Remember meu irmao, you are in Brasil where the maximum sentense for murder in the first degree is 30 years - out in 15.
I have no doubt about that. The problem is training in prison is different than training at a club. It's going to be extremely difficult for him to return to his previous form. And he would have been a better GK today than he was 2 years ago if he hadn't made a horrible decision. Cavalieri is the guy IMO unless he drastically dips in form.
Oh absolutely Bruno would have been a much better player training at Menago instead of in prison, but, if acquitted, which I dearly pray he is not, because we all know what happened, Bruno can most certainly regain his form. CHAMPIONS LEAGUES MATCHES TODAY - COPA SUL AMERICACA FINALS WITH SP TODAY - A great day in futebol!
I was waiting for a Flamengo/Bruno circle jerk to arise with all of this talk about Goalkeepers. Oh You Mengao fans. Shall we move on to Felipe or is he not a criminal enough?
If a team that has a top GK wins the brasileirao automatically that becomes the best GK... I mean really? it always works that way.. the team that wins usually gets all of their players in the best of category. So much changed from last year to this that Corinthians all of the sudden doesn't have the best of players? They won the libertadores you know.. Best of Globo awards are useless... Cavallieri needs 1 more year in order for him to be actually placed with names like Fabio and Prass.. which have been very consistent for the past 3 years.
My brother is a flamenguista doente, and I watched a lot of flamengo games with him, especially last year.. he kept you guys in the libertadores hunt and then some...
Bruno was the number one goalie in Brasil and the most talked about for the selecao right before he was charged. There was no doubt Bruno was going to be called up. You don't know that? And Felipe isn't even starting anymore for my querido Mengao. I saw Felipe last month at the Mercado De Peixe where R10 used to party with his entourage of friends - and partying like hell.
I think Bruno was closer to playing for Portugal than he was for Brazil. whats new with Felipe? I saw him do the same stuff when he was with Corinthians.
I really don't see what's wrong with the player having a lot of fun going out etc... because you guys only complain when the team isn't doing so well... You didn't see flamenguistas bitching about Ronaldinho's parties while the team was challenging for the Libertadores spot last year.. you only start bitching when the team isn't doing so well because Luxemburgo insists on selling bad character players, which on the field perform great. Ronaldinho still parties but he's not in Rio so there's not as much exposure and his team is in second place.. so the people don't care. Remeber last year when Fred had people show up at his doorstep to threaten him? All because Flu wasn't doing well... Now Flu won the championship but Fred is still doing the same things.. It's like that concentration before a game crap... outdated and has no positive impact on players. Of course there are players which party too hard and it has a negative effect on their play.. but if said player is the reason your team is losing, you have bigger issues.. because that means 10 other sober guys cannot do as good as 1 drunk player.
And they haven't had a better GK since... I would take the partying GK that performs better than the hard worker that sucks..
Portugal?? WTF are you talking about? And of course there is nothing wrong with a player partying as long as he performs. Who ever said there was a problem?
He was eligible for Portugal. iirc their staff was looking into calling him up. professionalism man professionalism
This thread has about run its course. We've gotten WAY off topic. Feel free to continue the discussion in the general thread.