Well guys....I wonder what you guys think about all this.......we often talk about how bad our soccer is and how the fault is in the "dirigentes." And it is nothing new to talk about the 3-headed monster and blah blah.....what do you guys think is the real trouble? What solutions do you propose? As a starter I leave you this article: http://www.erbol.com.bo/noticia.php?identificador=2147483929338 ...and then we wonder why our soccer is where it is.....
Everyone knows where I stand. Here are the subjects we are incredibly weak in: 1) Nutrition A) For youth and club level. 2) Ignorance: A) The Dirigentes may be smart, but very ignorant. B) Futbolito doesn't belong on FUTBALL field. 3) Money: A) League needs to attract better players/coaches to league. B) To retain good home players.
imo -a lack of fitness. players seem to not be informed about fitness and strength or simply don't care about it. and isn't a good example for youth -heavy hand of club directors - mucho poder a los directivos.
I think Money is a huge part of the problem.....like Bolivar which is our richest team cannot even invest half of what other teams in places such as Peru or Ecuador do. It doesn't help that there is rampant corruption at all levels of our soccer structure. Although it is far-fetched and impractical...I think at least at the FBF level elections should be nation-wide (as in, anybody who wants to vote can, with proper controls, etc), not just a bunch of corrupt dirigentes in a closed door reunion.
http://www.erbol.com.bo/noticia.php?identificador=2147483930598 y sigue el drama..........parece que tenemos unos anos mas con Chavez
its with our youth... you train feed teach the youth properly then theyll know the right stuff and play and represent our country well....then they become the new coaches and dirgientes and teach some new kids what they were taught..its an ongoing cycle..it should nvr stop... but there has to be order in the offices..i promote that we put the smart dudes of the '94 team on the office(the reliable ones)like platini since he already has SOME experience and they should head alll that stuff..or el bigoton as the head of the FBF! its really a complex situation and it wont be resolved fully in a few yrs unfortunately
sooo...the drama continues..... One the one hand we have Guido Loayza (http://www.facetasdeportivastv.com/nota.php?id=13032) saying government could take action. Probably a lawsuit against Chavez which could make him inelegible to run for any position. It is no secret that Rimba and some on his circle want Chavez out and Loayza in. On the other hand, Chavez (http://www.facetasdeportivastv.com/nota.php?id=13038) is complaining that government is interfering and that "Eso lo va a saber la FIFA." As we all know, FIFA hates government intervention because they want to be the lords of all, and thus, if government gets involved and Chavez does file a complaint, we can say goodbye to 2014 qualifiers.
whoaoaoa..looks complicated hopefully chavez leaves..its obvious hes not right for the job. who else is up for the job?
Yea...... But if he really did pull some form of fraud, Chavez.... then he can be charged or investigated. I dont think FIFA would care.... and the funny thing is, all this is connected with the 92-93 campaign. They are trying to bring EVERYTHING back to how it was back then, Loyaza was President back then, Claure was a wet behind the ears intern.... and there is change coming!!! Head high gentlemen!!! Chavez OUT!!!!!!!!!!
LOL. see Chavez won't want this to happen either.FIFA banning Bolivia from any international competition means no money for Chavez and his cronies also. Bolivian league will get a bad rap and fans will make their voices heard. .so it's more like he's resorting to filing a complaint if he can't stay as president. His last strike... He clearly doesn't care about our Futbol.If it takes a couple years out of competition in exchange for a change in administration. Sadly it's worth it. you guys lemme know if i'm out of line
i rather he not get re-elected...i dont want to be like chile where our players get old and never get a chance to represent like 1994 and then have to get new players..funny thing is.they qualified for 1998 hhaa but what is the gov't doing exactly that'll get us kicked out http://facetasdeportivastv.com/nota.php?id=13068 our candidates for FBF president
There is a blurry line where fifa says no government is allowed to ban or stick their hands in the soccer federations business..... but what exactly does that mean? Or how do they define that is the issue. Edit: Actually, this happened before with Peru, and their federation and elections if i remember right last year before the start of the libertadores. As a result of the gov. getting involved trying to get corrupt officials out and not eligible to re-run, FIFA suspended the federation and ALL soccer competitions, like Peruvian teams participating in the Libertadores until that could get resolved. It finally did, but Peru almost lost out on participating in the libertaodres and god knows what else. So in retrospect.... this could happen to bolivia!!!
http://facetasdeportivastv.com/nota.php?id=13048 Read that fellas - I'm not familiar with the burocracy of teh FBF or lack there of, but from this article, the president of FBF has to have some ties to one of the clubs, in this case Oriente for Chavez, but they have severed that relationship do to mishandling of funds (surprise surprise). Now he cant run for president until this is resolved. This would make it easier for Loayza to get in volved with out gov. interference.
Yup, doesn't surprise me. Oriente is on team Loayza. The thing is...other teams are on team Chavez, and this is how this could play out if Chavez is to get re-elected: Other team simply accepts Chavez as a dirigente (Blooming, Real Mamore, etc). Oriente files a claim to FBF regarding Chavez's activities on Oriente (right now they just said he is no longer a member). Chavez controls the FBF, so the FBF refuses to accept the claim. Chavez runs and wins.
Drey, but the article also reads that he must be clear of any liabilities before joining a diff team. Oriente has already accused him of mishandling the team and the team's money. Until this is cleared by whatever system they go through he cant join any team. Even if Oriente doesn't do anything in the end or loses but still drags him through the process then Oriente has done what they set out to accomplish, that is bog down Chavez's reelection.
True. Nontheless, the FBF still gets to decide who is elegible to run or not...:S Anyways, it seems Chavez has enough votes to get elected...seems like some money was offered to Universitario which was the pending decisive vote: "Los dirigentes Carlos Chávez y Mauricio Méndez llegaron hasta esta ciudad para pedirle una mano a Universitario, cuyo representante dijo inmediatamente que sí, de manera que hechas las cuentas son siete los clubes ligueros que apoyan la continuidad de los nombrados... “Hemos llegado aquí para que el presidente de Universitario constate el respaldo de varios clubes, pero lo importante fue dialogar y generar una buena dinámica de lo que es el fútbol y de lo que hemos hecho”, declaró Chávez, exultante de optimismo... El titular de Universitario, Wálter Arízaga, aprovechó la oportunidad para pedir a la Liga un anticipo económico, para superar la crisis por la que atraviesa debido a que no pagó a los jugadores los sueldos de los dos últimos meses, y recibió el compromiso de apoyo." Remember Chavez controls the Liga too through Mauricio Mendez. http://www.erbol.com.bo/noticia.php?identificador=2147483931601
http://facetasdeportivastv.com/nota.php?id=13124 good to see that some guys are forming together to gET CHAVEZ OUTTA HERE!!
From FacetasDeportivasTV.com "Al haber perdido el respaldo de Oriente Petrolero, Carlos Chávez es postulado por otros clubes, entre ellos Blooming. El actual presidente de la FBF, fue expulsado de su institución de origen, supuestamente por no rendir cuentas de su gestión de siete años. Chávez, dijo que además de la academia cruceña, lo proponen para la reelección, Guabirá, Universitario y Real Potosí. Agregó que a diferencia de la Liga, donde se requiere ser dirigente y cierta antigüedad, en la FBF cualquier club puede presentar un candidato."
So.....latest developments..... on the one hand, new delegates, with voting power come FBF president election day, were selected: Charles Bares (Wilstermann), Osvaldo Paz (Blooming), Nelson Guzmán (Universitario), Jaime Antelo (Real Mamoré), Samuel Blanco (Real Potosí) y Víctor Hugo Pedriel (Guabirá) http://www.facetasdeportivastv.com/nota.php?id=13168 All come from team Chavez teams. So this means Chavez instantly assured himself 6 more votes. He has more than enough I think. On the other hand....seems like team Loayza/Rimba has made a move....gov't jumped in..... "El SIN congeló todo lo que tiene la FBF" http://www.facetasdeportivastv.com/nota.php?id=13169 I can't help but think this was a move to get in the middle of Chavez getting re-elected.
So the soap opera continues. - There are currently 5 strikes in the Departmental Associations of La Paz, Oruro, Potosi, Cochabamba and Chuquisaca. In the latter two cases, the associations voted to support Guido Loayza, but the "dirigentes" disregarded that and expressed support for Chavez. - Government (Rimba) said that if the strikes are still there come the FBF's meeting, the government will not allow the elections to go through, obviously because they know Chavez is set to win. - Guido Loayza offered to quit to his bid if Chavez also quits. Once again, obviously because he knows Chavez is set to win. - Even though FBF does not have any assets with which to make the elections go through (their assets were frozen by government), Chavez' people have guaranteed that they'll pull it through regardless. - Rimba said that they are willing to intervene as Uruguay, Paraguay and Peru have done in their day, and that they are willing to face the consequences of such an action in order to cleanse the FBF and to have fair elections. http://www.eldeber.com.bo/2010/2010-07-22/vernotaahora.php?id=100722011205 http://www.facetasdeportivastv.com/nota.php?id=13218 http://www.facetasdeportivastv.com/nota.php?id=13212
