Blue Jackets 2011-12 Thread :: A New Era...Maybe [R]

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  1. CrewPens Member

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    gotta see it live!
    CrewPens, Dec 12, 2011
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  2. ZipSix BigSoccer Supporter

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    I agree with every word of this. Might as well take your time and really get a coach you believe in.
    ZipSix, Dec 12, 2011
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  3. DRWCrew Member

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    I agree completely. I just don't know that enough fans feel that way but it doesn't feel like the CBJ are under a ton of pressure to do anything. They seemed to have rode that wave out.
    DRWCrew, Dec 13, 2011
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  4. Nostradumass BigSoccer Supporter

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    Why would they feel like they need to do anything? They are 30th out of 30, and have something like 6 regulation wins in their last 50 games. There's no reason to change things!?!?!?!
    Nostradumass, Dec 13, 2011
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  5. DRWCrew Member

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    DRWCrew, Dec 13, 2011
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  6. KCbus Moderator

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    CBJ v Vancouver, 12/13

    What about that? Mason comes back and stops 29 of 30, the league's worst penalty kill has a perfect night against the league's best power play, and Letestu, Nash and Wisniewski go 3 for 3 in the shootout against Luongo.

    CBJ 2, Vancouver 1 (SO)
    KCbus, Dec 13, 2011
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  7. kgilbert78 Member

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    Re: CBJ v Vancouver, 12/13

    Hope they play like that on Saturday.
    kgilbert78, Dec 14, 2011
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  8. BG13 Member

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    the thing is, it doesn't matter. it doesn't matter how well they play, whether Mason looked good for a change, that Wiznewski scored in the SO. May as well start the Jackets Offseason thread.
    BG13, Dec 14, 2011
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  9. BG13 Member

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    BG13, Dec 14, 2011
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  10. HardHatMike Where's Your Star?

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    Re: CBJ v Vancouver, 12/13

    A broken clock is right twice a day.
    HardHatMike, Dec 14, 2011
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  11. DancingKevin Member

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    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQ-cRHnqreA"]Dancing Kevin- CBJ vs. BOS- 12.10.11 - YouTube[/ame]
    GO CBJ BEAT THE KINGS!!!
    DancingKevin, Dec 15, 2011
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  12. tomwilhelm Member+

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    tomwilhelm, Dec 15, 2011
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  13. bergbros Member

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    Jaque Lemaire fired by Montreal for a performance light years better than CBJ. In related news...all quiet on the Midwestern front.
    bergbros, Dec 17, 2011
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  14. KCbus Moderator

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    I'm going to ask this again: Exactly what is going to be accomplished by firing Arniel, other than placating the Columbus fans for a week and a half?

    If Arniel got fired, people would point out that Arniel was a guy caught in a bad situation, but it had to be done, blah blah blah. Then after about six or seven games, the CBJ will be playing the same old shitty hockey they always do. And we (and I use that term loosely, as I don't put myself into this category of thinking myself) will have gotten exactly what we wanted and been none the better for it.

    Since the firings (in no particular order)

    St. Louis: 12-2-3
    Washington: 4-4-0
    Los Angeles: 1-1-0
    Carolina: 2-5-1
    Anaheim: 2-4-1

    With the exception of St. Louis, all of those teams are pretty much playing at the same clip they were playing before the coaching changes.
    KCbus, Dec 17, 2011
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  15. Nostradumass BigSoccer Supporter

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    Saved for the Fire Warzycha thread.
    Nostradumass, Dec 17, 2011
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  16. KCbus Moderator

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    Also for the Warzycha thread: The complete lack of an answer to the question.
    KCbus, Dec 17, 2011
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  17. bergbros Member

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    So you are saying the team is so bad, firing Arniel will accomplish nothing. Maybe so, but he is doing nothing to change the sorry state and attitude of this team. Worst home record in the NHL with a crapticular effort against the Kings and TB on a horrendous homestand. I think a pathetic 5 regulation time wins in the last 30 games over the last two seasons. The other teams you mentioned have shown little tolerance for play and records better than the hideousness that we have seen over a much longer time span. I think whatever is left of the fan base deserves something similar.

    But you are right. In the meantime I will continue to buy my $95 face value tickets 10 rows behind the net in the attack twice zone from the season ticket holders unloading them for $28 per and still have the nagging feeling I could have gotten them for cheaper.
    bergbros, Dec 17, 2011
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  18. electrickeeper Moderator

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    If you want to make a change, trade Nash.
    electrickeeper, Dec 17, 2011
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  19. kgilbert78 Member

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    Since they have gone to the trouble of hiring Craig Patrick to figure out what is wrong with this team, I'm willing to have a little patience until he reports his results. Not much mind you, but a little. At the end of the first half this song bit kept running though my head "second verse, same as the first". Or should that be "187th verse, same as the first...".
    kgilbert78, Dec 17, 2011
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  20. kgilbert78 Member

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    One other note from last night's game. Johansen is playing on the 4th line now. This does make me again question the wisdom of keeping him in Columbus and not returning him to juniors. His hot start has not turned into sustained success.
    kgilbert78, Dec 18, 2011
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  21. KCbus Moderator

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    I for one never stopped questioning it. By the time Johansen had already played his 9th game, it should have been painfully obvious that this club was going nowhere. So to waste a year of his contract -- he would have needed to be a transcendent player on a Crosby or Ovechkin level to have it be worthwhile.

    Since the decision to keep him up, he had both goals in a 2-1 win over Winnipeg and then... nothing. He's looked tentative and uninspired like everyone else.
    KCbus, Dec 18, 2011
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  22. fidlerre Moderator

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    I could easily see them giving Arniel and Howson another months or so - then canning both of them in one big swoop by Patrick - he could make Richards the interim coach for the rest of the season while Patrick himself plays interim GM, before going for a tandem GM and head coach after the season is done.

    Firing Anriel and letting Howson replace him with a new coach this season would be...well, it'd be a disaster of epic proportions especially since this team has LONG be out of the playoff race. This team isn't going anywhere and hasn't under the leadership of the over-paying-patient-one Scott Howson. To let him keep running the ship would be a disaster.

    I can only hope when Patrick was hired by the McConnell family that they made him control the final vote for the franchise in any trade or deal that goes down the rest of the season - we certainly don't need to continue letting Howson run the party when it's pretty clear he (or Arniel) won't be around much longer.
    fidlerre, Dec 18, 2011
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  23. CrewPens Member

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    so Craig Patrick is supposed to be a hatchet man?
    CrewPens, Dec 18, 2011
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  24. kgilbert78 Member

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    Fid: We're on the same page on this. OTOH, what's your thoughts on Johansen now? I know you were of the opinion that he should stay with the team, but I'm wondering if recent events changed your mind any and what your thinking currently is. Not that hindsight would do the team any good now, as the decision is irreversible.
    kgilbert78, Dec 18, 2011
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  25. Nostradumass BigSoccer Supporter

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    Technically this is not correct. Johansen can still go back to the juniors, the nine game limit only referred to his contract status. A year is burned whether he stays or goes.
    Nostradumass, Dec 18, 2011
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