Black People Don't Play Soccer? -- the book

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  1. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So black people do not play soccer?
     
  2. Roger Allaway

    Roger Allaway Member+

    Apr 22, 2009
    Warminster, Pa.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Do you know what it says, or are you just guessing?
     
  3. JonMoller

    JonMoller Member

    Jan 10, 2012
    Sorry. I just went with the thread title.
     
  4. Romario'sgurl

    Romario'sgurl Member+

    Wakanda FC
    Aug 26, 2000
    Wakanda
    Club:
    FC Ingolstadt 04
    Nat'l Team:
    Ghana
    After 74 pages, one would hope that people would read through the thread a bit before commenting. :sigh:
     
  5. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This thread is probably longer than the book, may be easier to just read the book.
     
  6. Bolivianfuego

    Bolivianfuego Your favorite Bolivian

    Apr 12, 2004
    Fairfax, Va
    Club:
    Bolivar La Paz
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    I read it.... was NOT impressed. Although did learn a good amount of black players playing in the EPL.


    It was interesting facts.... mixed in with unorganized points and opinions.
     
  7. Romario'sgurl

    Romario'sgurl Member+

    Wakanda FC
    Aug 26, 2000
    Wakanda
    Club:
    FC Ingolstadt 04
    Nat'l Team:
    Ghana
    Understood. However, if I recall correctly, the book's premise is discussed in the first few pages of the thread...
     
  8. LyotoM

    LyotoM Member

    Apr 1, 2011
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Rec soccer - had a token black kid on my teams

    Recess soccer - a half dozen good players probably jamaican African

    Now...

    Half the kids playing in my playground were black.

    I've even seen the black kids play some cricket and many homes have a hoop
     
  9. viscajunior

    viscajunior Member+

    Aug 3, 2008
    Club:
    Junior Barranquilla
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    this is why football in the usa sucks and doesnt grow... black people dont play soccer? WTF is that question, everyone plays soccer, please!!!
     
  10. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
  11. Roger Allaway

    Roger Allaway Member+

    Apr 22, 2009
    Warminster, Pa.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I hope that this is sarcasm and that you realize that the book, which was written by a black man, is about the fact that black people do play soccer.
     
  12. viscajunior

    viscajunior Member+

    Aug 3, 2008
    Club:
    Junior Barranquilla
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    this should not be discused when everyone knows that black people do play football, your greates player actually is jozy altidore, a black player.
     
  13. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    It stupid Martin Luther King, Nelson Mandela, john Lennon wanted a world without races.....stop thinking in races, it doesn't matter of what color is a player, he is human begin

    Im proud of be black
     
  14. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    In fact for me abidal is the best player in the orld, but FIFA is full of racist and choose that tiny man called messi

    All people hate us
     
  15. aguimarães

    aguimarães Member

    Apr 19, 2006
    Club:
    LD Alajuelense
    What happened to this thread?
     
  16. bigredfutbol

    bigredfutbol Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 5, 2000
    Woodbridge, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Good Lord, why are some people incapable of grasping the premise of this thread?

    Before you post nonsense about how it's racist to say blacks don't play soccer or report this thread, take a few minutes to actually read the first post, where you will learn that this thread is about a book, written by a Black soccer player, about the MYTH that soccer isn't a "black" sport in America.

    I hate to close a thread that at times has had some great discussion, but it seems like every couple of months somebody stumbles across this thread and reacts to what they THINK it's about instead of taking a few minutes to figure it out. And we have to waste time setting the record straight and getting the discussion back on track.
     
  17. DCU1996

    DCU1996 Member

    Jun 3, 2002
    N. VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    Again I think that's a dumb book.

    More blacks play soccer than the American sport ice-hockey.
    Black people don't play NHL. WTF?
     
  18. MPNumber9

    MPNumber9 Member+

    Oct 10, 2010
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's probably less the case now, which makes the book less relevant, but among the general public (including American blacks) this perception still widely exists. More importantly, the sport still struggles to find a strong foothold among American blacks with parents that aren't from soccer nations. It begs the question why more blacks haven't adopted the sport, given the dominance of blacks in other field sports.
     
  19. Cool Rob

    Cool Rob Member

    Sep 26, 2002
    Chicago USA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Great stuff. If we look at soccer penetration in the US (beyond AYSO) I think its fair to say that travel plays a large role, whether it be via immigration to the US or Americans traveling and studying abroad.

    As a demographic, African Americans have lagged behind others in the US in terms of international travel and study abroad. IMO, international travel is an important way to understand its significance and to see the game played on a high-level. So, relative to other groups its possible that this is a reason African Americans start from a lower knowledge base about the game and so have lower adoption levels.

    Maybe the US Soccer federation should ask BET to show 2005 Brazil or 1998 Nigeria instead of late night infomericals or Friday After Next, After Next, After Next.
     
  20. viscajunior

    viscajunior Member+

    Aug 3, 2008
    Club:
    Junior Barranquilla
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    [content deleted]
     
  21. charlieblanko

    charlieblanko Member

    Dec 8, 2006
    cal south
    Club:
    Arsenal FC

    Some newbooties just went with the title and didn't read the first page or what the book is about. I didn't read the book, but love the idea that is presented. Also, I think it's true... to a certain extent.
     
  22. Dominican Lou

    Dominican Lou Member+

    Nov 27, 2004
    1936 Catalonia
    Ummm, Mandela and King (don't know about Lennon) didn't want a world without races, they wanted a world without racism and racial inequality.

    Pretending race doesn't exist isn't the answer. That just makes the problems invisible. Case in point: Latin America.
     
  23. Pigs

    Pigs Member

    Everton FC
    England
    Mar 31, 2001
    Everywhere and nowhere
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    This thread is pointless just like that book.
     
  24. CeltTexan

    CeltTexan Member+

    Sep 21, 2000
    Houston, TX USA
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Spoken like a true Everton supporter.
    Get lost cerdito.




    Some of the most well travelled and open to culture brothas I have known over the years are military guys. They will often speak of getting to know the land, its people its sports scene.
    However, this experience often does not gravitate others from the community to understanding the value of getting to know other languages or people. Thus, association football while appreciated by ex military folks gets lost in translation upon returning to the U.S.
     
  25. Pigs

    Pigs Member

    Everton FC
    England
    Mar 31, 2001
    Everywhere and nowhere
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Spoken "not" like a true Celtic fan. :D
     

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