Barcelona signs Ben Lederman to academy

Discussion in 'Youth National Teams' started by schrutebuck, Jun 2, 2011.

  1. soccersubjectively

    soccersubjectively BigSoccer Supporter

    Jan 17, 2012
    Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What's his FIFA 13 rating? 90? 91?
     
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  2. drgonzo

    drgonzo Member+

    Jun 1, 2011
    Club:
    San Diego Flash
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Don't be silly. He's only 12 years old.

    He's rated 87.
     
  3. Scotty

    Scotty Member+

    Dec 15, 1999
    Toscana
  4. gsryank

    gsryank Member

    Apr 23, 2011
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So im guessing he is playing with older kids good to see he is still doing well
     
  5. JG

    JG Member+

    Jun 27, 1999
  6. Spursfan1

    Spursfan1 Member+

    Sep 7, 2010
    Atlanta
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  7. ARSENAL#1

    ARSENAL#1 Member

    Aug 3, 2012
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What you mean?
     
  8. Ironkick14

    Ironkick14 Member+

    Sep 29, 2011
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    As they get older, the couple months will matter less and less.
     
  9. netminder1v1

    netminder1v1 New Member

    Oct 19, 2012
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    That is an interesting comment. I agree, regarding that the size discrepancy will evaporate with time. However, in the intervening years the older players are receiving the higher quality training and therefore have the advantage of the time, attention and expertise devoted to them. It will be very hard for younger players to overcome this disparity in experience after the discrepancy in both physical and mental maturity evens out. I am surprised to see this relative age effect perpetuated at a professional academy. I would have expected the financial incentive of producing as many salable assets as possible to have prompted them to make sure that they did not exclude 1/2 of the potential boys (assets) from consideration. Further, it seems that Barcelona staff are frequently quoted as saying size means nothing, but likely they are unaware that metal maturity, direclty associated with soccer IQ, that they opennly seek also directly cooresponds to a boy's age. By the way the B category is not "b" team it is a specific birth year, 2000. Infantil "A" is 1999 birth year.
     
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  10. Ironkick14

    Ironkick14 Member+

    Sep 29, 2011
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thanks for the clarification on A vs B. And while this is true that the older kids will receive more training at the younger ages, Barca will not stop scouting for talent for this age group. Players in the younger half of the age group will be getting training at other clubs in the area, and Barca will want to ensure the best players in Catalonia all play for them. Its not hard to imagine any player in the 2000 age group losing their spot to a kid a couple months younger that got better by training a lot with another club and then being picked up by Barca later on.
     
  11. Spursfan1

    Spursfan1 Member+

    Sep 7, 2010
    Atlanta
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He signed a 2 year contract. he is in year two. hopefully they sign another youth contract to continue. if he makes it to 15-17 then we have a chance of him getting to reserves.
     
  12. Master O

    Master O Member+

    Jul 7, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Does Ben have any intention of ever suiting up for the Stars and Stripes at any point, assuming he's called by whoever's running the MNT by then?
     
  13. Ironkick14

    Ironkick14 Member+

    Sep 29, 2011
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Why would he not? He was already involved at the U14 level, and does he even have other options?
     
  14. SUDano

    SUDano Member+

    Jan 18, 2003
    Rochester, NY
    Israel?
     
  15. Ironkick14

    Ironkick14 Member+

    Sep 29, 2011
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Idk, I was asking.
     
  16. SUDano

    SUDano Member+

    Jan 18, 2003
    Rochester, NY
    I thought I heard his father is from Israel. Could be wrong though.
     
  17. SUDano

    SUDano Member+

    Jan 18, 2003
    Rochester, NY
    Thought this would be interesting to those who are following Ben Lederman's progress at La Masia.

     
  18. Spursfan1

    Spursfan1 Member+

    Sep 7, 2010
    Atlanta
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Bens dad is American but he has roots in Israel. He has already participated in the youth teams for USYNT.

    We shall see how it progresses but if he continues up the line it would be nice.
     
  19. gsryank

    gsryank Member

    Apr 23, 2011
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There is always the chance if he becomes good enough that spain will try to take him like they tried with Messi but that is probably a long shot.
     
  20. Peretz48

    Peretz48 Member+

    Nov 9, 2003
    Los Angeles
    Guys, we're getting ahead of ourselves. It's very exciting that Lederman is at La Masia, but he's 12. So much can happen between now and when we can realistically project him as a future star, and everything that goes with that, including nat'l team affiliation. It means very little if he's called into a U15 camp, much more if it's U20.
     
  21. Real Corona

    Real Corona Member+

    Jan 19, 2008
    Colorado
    Club:
    FC Metalist Kharkiv
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's an extreme long shot. He doesn't have latin heritage to my knowledge. He'd need to live in Spain for ten years, basically meaning he'd be around 21 or 22 and would have had to refuse any and all youth camps, either for Israel or the US.

    He has a slightly higher chance of playing for Spain than I do.
     
  22. SUDano

    SUDano Member+

    Jan 18, 2003
    Rochester, NY
    We know that.
     
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  23. gsryank

    gsryank Member

    Apr 23, 2011
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's reassuring
     
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  24. Pl@ymaker

    Pl@ymaker Member+

    Feb 8, 2010
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Can somebody tell me about how his training as a child was so different from the other American kids?
     
  25. comoesa

    comoesa Member+

    Aug 13, 2010
    Christen Press's armpit
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    His father. I'm guessing that usually makes the difference. Also his youth coaches back here I hear are some guys who try to imitate the barca style(and hate all things american soccer...).
     

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