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Discussion in 'Ecuador - Clubs' started by ecuajhony, Jun 23, 2005.
Perlaza is a straight up paquetazo! At least he ditched the mega mullet/avatar hair do.
Holy shit, horrible loss today, I thought we played well up until Independiente tied us with the 2-2, man, its gonna be a tough year.
wow! I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw what Independiente did to Barcelona today. Holy sh*t. Not in my entire life could i imagine that happening even when Barcelona was about to get relegated back in 09.
I saw BSC play well for 60 minutes tbh, but wtf happened to the defense last 30 minutes? Erazo? thats the third game I seen him play bad, in a row btw
I hope the pressure of foreign scouts isn't making Erazo crack.
you can tell it definitely is. i wouldn't expect Erazo to behave in that manner, it's really unusual. But that may not be the case. Barcelona owes prize money, 2 months, and then some from last season to this squad. So there you have it. The only reason they'll show themselves off in the Libertadores (if they continue to do so) is because of scouts and the possibility to migrate. Until they see that money I doubt anything changes.
but no matter how much money is owed, if you're a player that claims to "sudar la camiseta" and be a fan of the team you play for, you never let anyone disrespect your team in your own stadium EVER. Not even Saritama let that happen and D.Quito always owed him and the rest of the squad something.
Erazo is being scouted hard by the mexicans. LOL. One club is willing to offer 8 million.
Michael Arroyo slapping Fernando Guerrero in the face and getting suspended for a few games and now Damian Diaz putting his hands on the ref smh. what is going on?
Damn... and I thought Liga was playing bad... Barcelona's play is very poor. The only OK team in Ecuador right now is Emelec. All other team can't even seem to know how to pass the ball at all.
Really poor playing, some players sometimes just stand still(im looking at you nalgaepan),some dont know how to pass(Im looking at you Olmedo,this one, is the biggest paquetazo).if you notice when Damian scored ,the only ones celebrating were the argentinians,i think only nazareno gave a hi five.there's some serious tension going on in the team.Costas got to take the reins and admit that the players he requested are 100% paquetazos and put in different players.in what world is olmedo better than Amaya.now add that their preseason was not up to par,while emelec was training hard in Argentina,these guys were still eating ceviche and pilseners(Im looking at you Arroyo)theres no linking up the midfield with the forwards,most of them look slow as hell,well at least Oyola tried to do something,the only other positive was when Arroyo ,Nalgaepan and Diaz linked up ,the result was the goal.this teams confidence is in the dumps and the resentment is showing.
I've said this before, last years campeonato was more because of Zubeldia than Costas. Costas came to Barcelona with every tool necessary to win a campeonato straight handed to him. He's a good coach, but committed huge screw ups after the season was over.
I never understood what Barcelona was trying to achieve by signing JC Paredes? Was it that neccessary? I know he's a top NT player and that any club would want to have him, but was he really needed by Barceona? I don't think so. Barcelona did a really great job with Bryan De la Torre and Miguel Ibarra on that right side last year. Up to right now, Bryan De la Torre's performances from last year outshine JC Paredes by miles. Why was Miguel Ibarra let go? I remember every barcelonista was throwing fits when that kid left b/c he actually performed well in every game he played last season. So why was it neccessary to sign Pedro Velasco? I don't understand that move. On paper Velasco and Paredes may be better, but why change a formula that is working? I think Costas was a bit too ambitious by signing both of those players, attempting to make the team stronger when in reality, barcelona has not benefitted from these changes.
Renzo Revoredo finished off the season well IMO. He had the ability to play as a right back when needed and even as a center back (the position he played at the end of the season when jairo campos got injured). Why was he let go? Isn't the defense Barcelona's weakest area right now?
And same goes with Jose Amaya, another player that did well in Barcelona that was let go for no reason. And I'll agree with you barcelonistas, that Olmedo is garbage. I'll take el gordo lucho Caicedo any day over Olmedo. And Barcelona paid 1.5 mil for this guy to come in??
Costas kind of tore up what was already built IMO.
And Michael Arroyo is FAT. I thought my eyes were fooling me at the beginning of the season but JEEZ, way to let yourself go bro. I completely noticed it last night. If Rueda doesn't call him up, we all know why.
Erazo has been AWFUL. European bound? You want to scored on Barcelona? Center high on Erazo. Both Boca and Toluca scored on headers. ALL DAY!!
They're suffering from the little known but lethal syndrome, Championship Chuchaki (little known because I just made it up). Again this can be traced to the weak Ecuadorean mentality exhibited by some of our players and countrymen. The players feel as if they've reached the pinnacle of success simply by winning the domestic championship last year. They haven't won jack. Maybe they'll get a gold star when they perform well in Libertadores or Sudamericana. They'll have to turn it around soon, Emelec and Dep. Quito are playing well and show no sign of letting up, Independiente is hungry for glory, and Liga will be a formidable opponent once Bauza smartens up and the players sacrifice and commit to winning.
That is poor ecuadorian mentality. I don't know how Barcelona wouldn't find it motivating to play a Copa Libertadores with the quality they have in their team. Such a waste.
We won a Libertadores with a squad that was way more limited in depth compared to what Barcelona has right now. Some players in this squad "se le subieron los humos". I can understand it b/c being part of a squad that didn't win a campeonato in 15 years is something to be proud about, but I'd never support that behavior from my team. If this squad played the way they did last season they would have 6-9 pts. right now in the Libertadores. A game away from making it to the next stage. What disappoints me the most is that players like Paredes, Arroyo, and Erazo who are NT members are ridiculing themselves at international level. All I can say is I hope they leave that sh*t at Barcelona and don't bring it to the NT.
They should have at least 6 points. After looking at Boca's lineup, i thought Barcelona was going to beat them especially after what we saw in uruguay. Same old crap, Not being able to close out games and goals at the very end. What a disappointment. Where in the hell is that Castillejos whatever?
Little by Little we getting our game back, little by little, R, Oyolas game today was fantastic
Barcelona two center backs are getting clowned. Headers all day BABY. All Day.
Barcelona was robbed of another penalty. OMG it was ridiculous.
Bad defense on high crosses and robbed penalties was the story for us this Libertadores
penalty or not, barcelona didn't display good futbol in this cup at all. the investment on this years team was high as f*ck for the type of performances they had.
Costas lost his touch from last year. He had it right idea last season by rotating players and giving his whole squad minutes and still winning. This year Jose Ayovi, Bryan De La Torre, Roosevelt Oyola, Holger Matamoros, and MJ Quinonez all barely get the amount of minutes they used to last year. And let me add that all of them were key players in the majority of games they played in the campeonato. Whatever happened to Pedro Velasco? And Juan Cazares was signed and I've only seen him once lol. Poor kids. And gordo lucho Caicedo, Nicolas Olmedo, Castillejos? haven't heard of these guys in a WHILE.
No it wasn't. That's some of the best play That I've seen from any Ecuadorian club in Uruguayan land. If Barcelona didn't get robbed and had the 3 points than it would have been a different story. Last night Matias Oyola had a 1 on 1 with the goalie and ate it. Its not like any club in this group is playing any better. Toluca, Nacional and Boca are no way displaying better futbol than Barcelona and before last night, None of these clubs managed to win a home game.
Where are all those clowns that thought Erazo was ready for Europe? He was the worst in every Copa libertadores game. Opponents had a field day crossing balls in. ALL DAY BABY. Costas didn't lose his touch just like Bauza didn't lose his touch. They have to deal with the undisciplined Ecuadorian footballer. Is it me or is Arroyo fat? Didn't freddy olivo kill someone while driving drunk? who the hell knows what going on internally. Roosevelt Oyola was injured. at the same time you mentioned all those players. Argentine Commentators fell in love with Carlos Grueso and couldn't believe he was 17. let me repeat this. a 17 year old Ecuadorian Footballer playing in a crucial Copa Libertadores game in La Bombonera. You won't see that anytime in the near future or ever again. that kid is going to be huge.
Apart from the refs getting involved in these games and favoring Barcelona's opponents, I still think that the futbol they displayed wasn't anywhere near last years team. I give it to Barcelona, last years team was a threat. They may have more options and depth in their squad this season, but they can't generate the danger they did last season. Last year all these guys would score- MJ Quinonez, Arroyo, Matamoros, Diaz (he still does this year), Jose Ayovi, even Bryan de La Torre playing as a carrilero. May be disciplinary problems, i don't doubt it. I'm pretty sure Olivo is in jail, i don't even know what's the update on that guy. All I can say is that this teams investment and squad depth is wayyy bigger than any other ecuadorian club team and the performances they had in Copa didn't make up for all that they invested.
As far as Carlos Gruezo, i've been saying the same thing. His attitude and menality on the field isn't that of a 17 or 18 year old, it's the personality of an experienced player. He will be big. After Segundo Castillo, it's Gruezo's time. I think Rueda should make space for him on the NT, b/c that position needs youth. Whether or not Rueda includes him in this qualifier, I still believe he should be on the list that travels to Brazil 2014, assuming that we make it. That's the ONLY kid from last season in Barcelona that still has been consistent with play time.
I'm supporting you guys for el clasico del astillero today lol we need a lil assistance so Emelec doesn't continue adding up points to their tally.
But this weekend, it's on!
Don't hold your breath hoping for a BSC win tonight lol. That 5-0 thrashing is still fresh on our minds and now is a good time as any to get some payback. They're also missing some key guys-M. Oyola, Arroyo, and Paredes are not playing.