You said Messi scored 5 of his CL goals against a pathetic Bayer team. Now you say they were pathetic because they lost 7-1. But you do realize that they lost 7-1 because Messi scored 5 goals, right? So in a way you are trying to downplay Messi scoring those 5 goals. Ronaldo played against Apoel. Why didn't he score 5 goals against them? They were even more pathetic. Ronaldo also played against another pathetic team before that, CSKA Moskow. Despite the big marginal loss, at least Bayer played some football, while Apoel and CSKA Moscow played like shit. Therefore they are pathetic teams based on play.