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Discussion in 'Spirituality & Religion' started by Revolt, Oct 16, 2010.
Sorry. She's got a strict 'no discounts' policy.
I had a couple of teenage whores as neighbors when I was a freshman in high school. Not as salacious as it sounds ... not unless you fantasize about sex with pigs.
i went to ETHS. Debutantes 27, Strumpets 0...
Apparently, it's too pushy for some people if atheists Adopt-a-Highway and get their name on one of those signs.
Yeah, atheists who want to clean up the environment are the spawn of Satan at work, but fathers who pimp out their 15 year old daughters for photo shoots like this represent all that is holy and righteous.
You are attacking an extreme point of view that you found on-line. If you dig, you will find lots of odd and strange comments and beliefs, and particularly among celebrities. But it doesn't follow that they are indicative of the views of religious people.
The idea that Hannah Montana's "downfall" is somehow connected to some atheist sponsored highway sign is good for a laugh perhaps, but not worthy of a serious discussion within the context of the topic of atheists being pushy.
The OP was talking about people at an atheist convention who were debating "how publicly scornful of religion should we be". I don't think most religious people -or people in general- would argue that signs indicating that an atheist organization is helping clean the highway fall under the category of "being publicly scornful of religion".
it's not like this thread has been exactly active, lately, or addressing the OP much.
I also don't think his point of view is all THAT extreme, and even if it is, HE is the one being interview in magazines ready by thousands of people, so that extreme point of view, as you call, is what all those other people are seeing. I don't believe, extreme or not, it is unworthy of being ridiculed.
Well yeah, he does deserve to be ridiculed.
Actually, if Billy Ray wants to look for a Satan who "screwed up" his daughter, maybe he should look at Disney, because it seems like all the child actors coming out of Disney end up being screwed up these days. But he was the one who embraced Disney when they were turning his young daughter into a money generating celebrity, so he can hardly call them Satan now.
Actually there's quite good evidence that just saying "I don't believe in god" is upsetting to a lot of religious people. The double standard that Billy Ray Cyrus represents might be extreme in that example but it is out there and it's part of the debate that the very first post brought up. There are people who think the "new" atheists Dawkins, Dennett, Harris and Hitchens are rude and uncivil which is a laughable proposition. So what makes them rude? The fact that they question religion or don't accept religious propositions without evidence is what earns them this label and then people try to defend this idea that you shouldn't be rude, but when "rude" is just saying "I'm an atheist and I don't believe in what you believe" that's a pretty ridiculous notion.
I agree with you that Billy Ray Cyrus is basically an idiot and that adopting a highway isn't scornful. But there are people less idiotic than him (both religious and irreligious too) that think an atheist making their presence known is scornful and that's part of what triggers the debate in the OP - atheists debate how pushy to be isn't really about how pushy to be it's more about whether they're pushy or not in the first place.
Anyways, there's a double standard and this thread is about dealing with that double standard.
Even lovely Darlene turned bad.
Ah, Darlene. You broke my heart every time you'd sing with Bobby ...
I'm sure it does upset some people. But that's their problem, not yours. Obviously, you're not being pushy or scornful for saying that you don't believe in God. The one who tells you that your belief -or lack of belief- gets them upset is the one who is being pushy in this case.
More proof that Disney is indeed the Devil. It's no coincidence that they both start with a "D".