Discussion in 'Iraq' started by Suren01, Jan 1, 2013.
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Iraq will not make the World Cup because they do not have a professional FA. Zico should never have been fired and younis Mahmoud is too old.
There is still hope for the team... We are improving every game, we will get a new coach after the Gulf Cup, they have 6 months of matches (Gulf Cup, ACQ, friendlies) to prepare for the final push in June..
Tomorrow: Iraq - Saudi Arabia.
I wonder how our NT will perform against a solid side. We need this kind of games for the development of the youngsters. The most important thing is the level of play and not winning this tournament. We need to see gaps being filled on the field by players who are capable to do that. We need some stability and not a different line up every game. All the luck to our NT.
We won 2-0 but the performance was really not good at all.
Thank you for this comment. I was starting to doubt myself about my view of the game when i watched the discussions regarding the game. People make it sound like we totally had the game under control. Go watch the first 20 minutes of the the 2nd half; it seemed like it was the end of the game. We stopped trying and the defenders were blindly shooting the ball forward. We had no attacking intentions whatsoever. Having said all of this: it always feels good when we beat the Saudi's. They expected a big win against us (like always) but they got a beat down (also like always). Younis Mahmoud stated after the game that he had a cold and he just shut off during the game but the brilliant Hakeem Shakir substituted him a few minutes before the final whistle.
I think the reaction is quite normal:
- the match was sensitive, yet we won (first somehow competitive since the '07 final)
- the usual media talk
- Saudis having a home, booing the Iraqi anthem
- lots of tits for tats on the field
made people oversee the performace. No doubt we were solid, but to be honest, we faced a very weak Saudi team.
We were solid enough but this Saudi team while very strong on paper (strong league and decent players), does not gel well at all. The positive thing for me was Humam Tariq, still a teenager but he was incredible in his first fully competitive international, definitely one for the future.
In my opinion from what I have seen, UAE are the biggest threat to us, and here's why I think this:
Malaysia reporting that they will play a friendly against Iraq on 1. February
Confirmation: The 22nd edition of the Gulf cup will be held in Basra. I am watching Al Majlis and i am not believing what i am hearing. Humoud and Riad abdulabbas are stating that it is completely safe in Iraq ever since 2003. Who are they kidding? Lets be real here, our people back home are suffering in silence and nobody cares. This is a disgrace.
IFA officials can be really hillarious. If Iraq was really save, then they'd have found a way to get us playing home games again. Funny they are making these statements while choosing Dubai as home venue for the ACQ the same day.
Basra is quite safe, but I expect the tournament to be moved to KSA sooner or later.
This is an insult to all iraqis living in Iraq and struggling on a daily basis. About choosing Dubai as a home venue for the ACQ: exactly what i was thinking!
We just won over Bahrain by penalties. With all due respect, but Bahrain is a very very average team but still were the better side today. I hope the IFA realizes that Hakeem Shakir is not worthy of coaching the NT based on the stupid substitions of today and find a good coach. I think we reached a low point in our level today, it was terrible. Younis proved that despite his age and his current performance that he is still irreplaceable and i find this very depressing. Anyway, Mabrook and all the best on Friday.
We played a good first half, but the rest was a mess. I used to like Ravshan Iramtov but the way he favoured Bahrain today was a farce.
Happy for the people out there celebrating.
Btw Younis' Panenka style Pentaly. Awesome, I think that moment won us the game.
Younis likes to show off his cojones . And what completed the whole thing was his reaction afterwards: 'Ani Mgabal'. Haha.
On another note: We are facing a great UAE side and i think that it is the first time in the history of the encounters between UAE and Iraq that the UAE are the clear favourites.
The UAE had the home advantage today, disrespected Iraq as a country and the referee was not our best friend for known reasons. Bahrain did their best to keep out the Iraqi fans out of the country by not giving out visas. But still, our NT was the better side. These circumstances are normal to our NT when facing khaleejis. All these factors only increase my love and passion for Iraqi football. It's us against those people and they confirm it over and over again. And our foolish FA is happy that Basra will host this joke of a tournament. I think that at every beginning of this tournament the fans now that their hearts will get broken but we still watch the games because football is our only joy regarding our country. I really am ok with this third consecutive loss in a final but i am feeling for those youngsters.
Well it's kinda disgusting to lose it that way, but whatever it's just another regional tournament.
Next games: 1.2 friendly vs Malaysia and 6.2 ACQ against Indonesia , both in Dubai.
Time to concentrate on the Asian Cup qualis now. Gulf Cup should be treated as a run out for these youngsters.
I don't think Shakir is the man to take us to the World Cup or get us far in 2015 in Australia. We need to find a more experienced manager to do this.
Yes! We need to focus on the ACQ, and WCQ.
Bora Milutinovic, Iraq's coach at the 2009 Confederations Cup, is going to attend the match Iraq v Indonesia, and according to Iraqfpg, he is interested in coaching Iraq.
What do you think? Good or bad idea?
I believe that Bora can take us to the World Cup We have the talent, we just need structure and experience at this stage. We need to play as many friendlies as possible, I hope that we can play our home game in Basra and I'm sure we can take second spot.
Australia and Oman aren't better, especially now when we have a strongly improved team, who is getting better every game..
Jordan is no threat for us. They will finish fourth or fifth. I believe the Oman game is a must win game and will at least decide who's going to take the third spot.
After that, we just need to beat an already qualified Japan side who is going to play in the Confed. Cup 4 days after our game. By that time Japan doesn't care about winning, and history will prove me right. When Japan qualified for the Fourth Round, they lost 1-0 against Korea DPR, and 1-0 against Uzbekistan. And don't forget that they just won by 1 goal in Saitama, and that was against an unexperienced Iraqi team.
And then I hope that we just need to tie Australia in ANZ Stadium. Our hardest game for sure..
And ofcourse, I hope that Australia will lose some points, that Japan will rape them in Saitama, to give them a bad goal difference. That will make it easier for us
I'd rather keep Hakeem Shakir (not because of his brilliance but just to gain stability). On the other hand, i am against the idea of him leading the youth team and NT. I don't know about Bora; i find him too old. I want somebody relatively young, who is willing to search for Iraqi players everywhere and somebody who doesn't accept interference from the FA. The chance of us qualifying for the World Cup is very slim.
BTW, Hakeem Shakir didn't call up Ahmed Yasin. I just don't understand the racism against Iraqi football players who live abroad.
Forget about Hakeem Shakir. He proved us that he can't coach our NT. He is a bad coach without any achievements in the past
Bora led 4 different nations to 4 different World Cups
Mexico quarter finals (1986)
USA round of 16 (1994)
Nigeria qualified (1998)
China qualified (2002)
And he coached our NT before, so he knows about our players. I think he can led us to Brazil
Let me first start off by saying that i don't like Hakeem at all. But we have to look at the facts: our team improved under his guidance and we performed quite well in the last game against the UAE. Plus, he did a good job with the youth team. Since our IFA failed to find a coach in the previous period and probably won't find one in the near future i think it will be best to keep Hakeem. I don't want a short term coach like Bora, i am fed up with short term coaches. If we want to achieve something we have to keep a coach for a minimum of two years. BTW, Bora knows Nashat and Karrar but doesn't know the new (young) players.
But the problem is that Hakeem Shakir is a first half coach.. He always ********s it up in the second half, don't know about tactics, and no good subs at all...
I don't know how we can progress with a coach like him. I know that Bora is a short term coach, but at least he has experience. He can qualify us. He is the best option at the moment..
Hakeem Shakir can't stay btw, he gotta prepare the U20 team for the World Cup in June
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