Are we "Lab Rats" like Toronto?

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  1. mjlee22

    mjlee22 Quake & Landon fan

    Nov 24, 2003
    near Palo Alto, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Toronto FC GM Kevin Payne said they are "Lab Rats" for Training inexperienced MLS referees. The link on MLS soccer shows that this season, 62-78% of LA, NY, and Seattle games get assigned refs with 50+ games. Toronto has only had that level of experience 30% of their season. He also mentioned those three teams have seldom had refs with 10-15 games of experience, whereas That has happened to Toronto alot.

    I'm pretty sure these facts apply to us as well. Check out the link below, however, you may have to follow a nested link within it. For some reason, my iPad doesn't capture the final link.

    http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/artic...-walton-says-toronto-fcs-criticisms-are-valid
     
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  2. QuietType

    QuietType Member+

    Jun 6, 2009
    Sacramento, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Very interesting indeed. Blatant favoritism by the league, I'd be surprised if this doesn't become bigger. This should be an issue addressed by the league somewhere
     
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  3. TyffaneeSue

    TyffaneeSue moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 15, 2003
    Upstairs
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    And we don't even have "tea party" in our name!
     
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  4. KMJvet

    KMJvet BigSoccer Supporter

    May 26, 2001
    Quake Country
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Peter Walton continues to be a disaster.
     
  5. Earthshaker

    Earthshaker BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 12, 2005
    The hills above town
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hmmm..... Kind of cuts both ways. I am thinking it is probably a good idea that those teams are not getting inexperienced, less confident refs who may be easier to intimidate and may find themselves a little star-struck (by Keane, Henry, Donovan) or "crowd"-struck (in Seattle).
     
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  6. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'd guess that if there's an agenda, it's toward putting veteran refs on national TV games, which disproportionately feature those teams, and almost never feature Canadian teams.
     
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  7. TyffaneeSue

    TyffaneeSue moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 15, 2003
    Upstairs
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    That is way too obvious a reason.
     
  8. Albany58

    Albany58 Member+

    Sep 14, 1999
    Concord, CA USA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And definitely not fitting with any conspiracy theory.
     
  9. Steve0013

    Steve0013 Member

    Jul 20, 2012
    London, UK
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
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  10. bsman

    bsman Member+

    May 30, 2001
    MadCity
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Ah yes, the ever self-effacing BA strikes again!
     
  11. Beerking

    Beerking Member+

    Nov 14, 2000
    Humboldt County
    Should be and will be are two different things my friend, I won't be holding my breath for the upcoming announcement.
    Didn't think I could dislike him any more than I did but ....surprise!
     
  12. nihon2000

    nihon2000 Member

    Oct 14, 2008
    San Jose
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    growing respect for Toronto FC president and GM Kevin Payne. He is helping his team & the league as a whole. I applaud him. Plus, it is nice to hear other folks complaining about the refs besides us ;)
     
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  13. Albany58

    Albany58 Member+

    Sep 14, 1999
    Concord, CA USA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Was "The Bruce" that cocky an SOB back before he got the USNT job? Seems like it was DC United and he was a bit more reserved. o_O
     
  14. DotMPP

    DotMPP 'Quakes fan in Stumptown

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Jun 29, 2004
    SE Portland, OR
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, look at his performance...

    He was a successful college (UV), DC United, USNT (best performance in a WC), and he righted the Filth ship.

    He can back up the swagger. I don't think he's unreasonable to be cocky. I think San Jose would be better with him coaching.

    (No one has ever succeeded in New York, can't hold that against him)
     
  15. bigdumbgod

    bigdumbgod Member+

    Jun 25, 2005
    San Jose, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  16. Albany58

    Albany58 Member+

    Sep 14, 1999
    Concord, CA USA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  17. QuietType

    QuietType Member+

    Jun 6, 2009
    Sacramento, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I have no problem with him being cocky. It's the fact that he thinks the Galaxy should get preferential treatment which is the problem. The US Open Cup is meant to be a broad tournament where any American team from any league can compete on a level playing field. MLS teams already get an advantage as they get to come in at later rounds, but that's not enough for Bruce - he wants home field advantage to boot. That's the problem. Griping about what is essentially an unbiased way of determining game venues smacks of entitlement. Nothing new from a guy who is used to coaching a team that outspends the rest of the league and still finds things to complain about.
     
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  18. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Bobby Convey is their newest rat. How appropriate!
    [​IMG]
     
  19. KMJvet

    KMJvet BigSoccer Supporter

    May 26, 2001
    Quake Country
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I hope Arena has an MI on the cross-country flight.
     
  20. DotMPP

    DotMPP 'Quakes fan in Stumptown

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Jun 29, 2004
    SE Portland, OR
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I get it...

    I think there are portable defibrillators on the planes...

    If N is the number of devices on the plane, I think you mean, you want there to be N number of MIs on the plane, before Bruce has his... ;)
     
  21. TyffaneeSue

    TyffaneeSue moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 15, 2003
    Upstairs
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    I had the same reaction as Dot. I think you want to wait until he's in the limo going to the hotel.
     
  22. KMJvet

    KMJvet BigSoccer Supporter

    May 26, 2001
    Quake Country
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No arrhythmia necessary--massive infarction that wipes out the entire blood supply to the left ventricle will do.
     
  23. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So wishing for a man's death on an airplane is what we're about now?
     
  24. DotMPP

    DotMPP 'Quakes fan in Stumptown

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Jun 29, 2004
    SE Portland, OR
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm not actually wishing for it, but by participating in the discussion I suppose I'm guilty by association. :unsure:
     
  25. markmcf8

    markmcf8 Member+

    Oct 18, 1999
    Vancouver, WA, USA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    ^This. It wouldn't matter if they had a defibrillator or not. He'd be dead as a stone.

    But I don't wish that on him. I would really like for MLS to actually enforce its salary cap on the filth though. I'd like for the TV announcers to stop loving the douche-bag, filth-eating, cheating, entitlted, smog-breathing, water-stealing galactopustules so damn much. It's appalling. Oh, and I'd love to see the refs grow eyes and spines and actually call the game the way the rules are written. That would be good for every team.

    But yeah, Il Bruce is scum-sucking, elitist, bag of crap. "We're the premier team in the league?" Excuse me pus-bag, but this is a single-entity league with a freaking salary cap, which makes your filth eating side no more important than Toronto or Columbus.

    go quakes!
    Fire Frank!

    - Mark
     

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