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Discussion in 'New York City' started by G Enriquez, Oct 27, 2010.
I know. I posted it to point out the fact that ESPN has picked up on it.
I'd tend to agree.
I usually scoff when people claim that Meadowlands teams don't represent the city, but in this case it's not that far off. The MetroStars had zero interest in the actual city. Red Bull doesn't appear to have much more. It's bothered me since the 1990s.
The market remains largely untapped, and ready for a team. You can call it a second team, but it would be closer to a first.
I think Metro/NYRB 's perceived lack of interest in the city has more to do with finding a location to play than not wating to tap the NYC market. As you all know, getting the stadium is a the toughest nut to crack. Playing in Giants Stadium, and building in Harrison are just the best option available at the time. Most MLS teams face this problem.
People always dig on Metro/RB for not being NY, but they are closer to downtown NY (8-9 Miles) than the Union are to Philly (13 Miles), the Fire are to Chicago (11 Miles), FCD is to Dallas (24 Miles), Gal/Chivas is to LA (12 Miles), and RSL is to SLC (12 Miles). They all had to settle outward in their respective metro areas to find somewhere where the economics of building work out and the job can get done.
Hopefully if NYC2 can get something going in queens, that will be great to capture the Queens, Brooklyn, LI crowd without 2 teams cannabalizing each others fans.
Hey Upstate..I was gonna post a long winded post about the RB's not caring about NYC. But I've done it to death..I know you're new to this, but we've been doing this for over 3 years now.
True. I'm sure i'm beating a dead horse.
I've seen your posts..you seem to understand better then most RB fans..So I know you mean well.
It doesn't have anything to do with where the team plays. The Giants and Jets are still very much a part of the city's fabric, though they haven't played in the city for decades.
The MetroStars/Red Bulls have never, in my memory, made a concerted effort to market themselves in the city, to develop the sport in the city. They chose to be more of a suburban team. Which is fair enough, their choice, but they run the risk of losing the city itself to a team that takes a different approach.
it's the Greatest of ideas !!!
Sounders, Timbers, Whitecaps, Impact and Cosmos.
One of these things is not like the others....
Cosmos to MLS a good idea?
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBrHvOuISuk&feature=related"]YouTube - Pele announces The New York Cosmos are BACK![/ame]
Check this out and judge yourself.
great video! just pele saying cosmos are back at a nyc amateur tournament..made news around the globe!
it is the best for MLS, for U.S. Soccer and for New York City, no need to add further things
good explanations noob.
Cosmos don't need any further explaination, your answer is really noob
Impact of Philly on MLS vs Impact of Cosmos on MLS??
COSMOS ALL DAY!!!
One has happened.
One is only speculated on.
Not to mention Union drew a packed stadium for most of the season despite being located in an awful ghetto located closer to Wilmington DE than Philly. So i think Philly's imprint on the league is just fine.
The Cosmos are closer to fruition than many believe. I wont disagree and say that they are in MLS today when they are not. But they already do exist.
While Philly had a nice fanbase this year and I feel that it will continue into the future it's impact on the league will be nigh compared to the Cosmos' impact.
Just the ramp up to the Cosmos coming into the league has had a far greater impact nationwide than has the Philly inaugural year.
That is some serious koolaid drinking right there.
In which alternate universe?
The Cosmos are by far more popular than the Union.
See, this right here is why people hate you and think you're a dipshit.
You do know how to stay on message. Political consulting or advertising would be good for you. Little note, you shouldn't do your work for the Cosmos for free.