Are the Cosmos a good idea?

Discussion in 'New York City' started by G Enriquez, Oct 27, 2010.

  1. kokoplus10 Moderator

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  2. gothamite New Member

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    I'd tend to agree.

    I usually scoff when people claim that Meadowlands teams don't represent the city, but in this case it's not that far off. The MetroStars had zero interest in the actual city. Red Bull doesn't appear to have much more. It's bothered me since the 1990s.

    The market remains largely untapped, and ready for a team. You can call it a second team, but it would be closer to a first.
  3. KingsCountyFC Member

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    +1
    exactly.
  4. UpstateFan Member

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    I think Metro/NYRB 's perceived lack of interest in the city has more to do with finding a location to play than not wating to tap the NYC market. As you all know, getting the stadium is a the toughest nut to crack. Playing in Giants Stadium, and building in Harrison are just the best option available at the time. Most MLS teams face this problem.

    People always dig on Metro/RB for not being NY, but they are closer to downtown NY (8-9 Miles) than the Union are to Philly (13 Miles), the Fire are to Chicago (11 Miles), FCD is to Dallas (24 Miles), Gal/Chivas is to LA (12 Miles), and RSL is to SLC (12 Miles). They all had to settle outward in their respective metro areas to find somewhere where the economics of building work out and the job can get done.

    Hopefully if NYC2 can get something going in queens, that will be great to capture the Queens, Brooklyn, LI crowd without 2 teams cannabalizing each others fans.
  5. Woodside Mets Member

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    Hey Upstate..I was gonna post a long winded post about the RB's not caring about NYC. But I've done it to death..I know you're new to this, but we've been doing this for over 3 years now.
  6. UpstateFan Member

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    True. I'm sure i'm beating a dead horse.
  7. Woodside Mets Member

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    I've seen your posts..you seem to understand better then most RB fans..So I know you mean well.
  8. gothamite New Member

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    It doesn't have anything to do with where the team plays. The Giants and Jets are still very much a part of the city's fabric, though they haven't played in the city for decades.

    The MetroStars/Red Bulls have never, in my memory, made a concerted effort to market themselves in the city, to develop the sport in the city. They chose to be more of a suburban team. Which is fair enough, their choice, but they run the risk of losing the city itself to a team that takes a different approach.
  9. kiro2317 Member

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    it's the Greatest of ideas !!!
  10. WhiteStar Warriors Member

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    Sounders, Timbers, Whitecaps, Impact and Cosmos. :D
  11. gothamite New Member

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    One of these things is not like the others....
  12. hooligan08 New Member

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    Cosmos to MLS a good idea?

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBrHvOuISuk&feature=related"]YouTube - Pele announces The New York Cosmos are BACK![/ame]

    Check this out and judge yourself. :)
  13. BuddhaNYC Member

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  14. New_York_Cosmos New Member

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    it is the best for MLS, for U.S. Soccer and for New York City, no need to add further things
  15. UnionFreak1 Member

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    good explanations noob.
  16. New_York_Cosmos New Member

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    Cosmos don't need any further explaination, your answer is really noob
  17. NYC_COSMOS BigSoccer Supporter

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    Let's compare:

    Impact of Philly on MLS vs Impact of Cosmos on MLS??

    COSMOS ALL DAY!!!
  18. song219 BigSoccer Supporter

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    One has happened.

    One is only speculated on.
  19. UpstateFan Member

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    Not to mention Union drew a packed stadium for most of the season despite being located in an awful ghetto located closer to Wilmington DE than Philly. So i think Philly's imprint on the league is just fine.
  20. NYC_COSMOS BigSoccer Supporter

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    The Cosmos are closer to fruition than many believe. I wont disagree and say that they are in MLS today when they are not. But they already do exist.

    While Philly had a nice fanbase this year and I feel that it will continue into the future it's impact on the league will be nigh compared to the Cosmos' impact.

    Just the ramp up to the Cosmos coming into the league has had a far greater impact nationwide than has the Philly inaugural year.
  21. UpstateFan Member

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    That is some serious koolaid drinking right there.
  22. song219 BigSoccer Supporter

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    In which alternate universe?
  23. NYC_COSMOS BigSoccer Supporter

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    The Cosmos are by far more popular than the Union.
  24. kenntomasch Member+

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    See, this right here is why people hate you and think you're a dipshit.
  25. song219 BigSoccer Supporter

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    You do know how to stay on message. Political consulting or advertising would be good for you. Little note, you shouldn't do your work for the Cosmos for free.

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