get rid of him ASAP. He isn't good enough for the team to play to only his strengths. And like some have said, he doesn't seem to have that hunger to prove all us naysayers wrong a la Lucas. The big man/little man thing Kenny wanted has been a complete bust. What we need is a striker that can play one touch football with Suarez as the SS and can be efficient in the box.
Yeah, throwing yourself on the ground playing for a penalty when there is nothing between the goal and yourself but green grass ..... well, I don't even have words for that yesterday.
been hanging out with suarez too much. true though, issuing a straight red for blatant conning of the ref would help to eliminate shit like that. good lord, how many matches a season would suarez miss? half.
Of course no one at Le Arse does that... Personally I want Luis to STFU most of the time and just play to the fullest of his abilities. The histrionics make him hard to watch at times. That goes for all players for whom hitting the deck is a tool they use to win. Play to win, the right fucking way or go play elsewhere.
I've been defending him, (and the team's record with him) but I can't bring myself to do it anymore. Not after that. As someone said in another post: What a shit season.
Carroll played hard and very excellent imo. What do people want from this lad? If his name was Rooney he would probably have had 2 penalties, or at least one. A sure goal was cleared by an arm. He played with heart without question - as his manager said afterwards. On his 'dive' which is shown in super-slow motion, think about this. He made two great plays on the way, on a long run - AT FULL SPEED - making moves. Is it possible at all, that he lost his balance, and tripped? I think so. Fans? Supporters? More like armchair critiques.
Yea he didn't play poorly but I don't think there is even an argument over whether that was a dive or not. Pretty obvious.
I'd like Chelsea's 35m back. Hell, who am I kidding - I'd take Torres back in the #9 in a heartbeat, rather than watch Carroll play another minute for the club.
He just made 2 great moves at full speed, and tripped going around the keeper, you can even see him reaching back for the ball - in super slow mow. Have you ever tripped or stumbled when running? I have. KD did not think that he 'dove' and neither do I. Full speed moves. And no one is commenting on the arm/hand ball that kept out his goal? If he gets that sure goal, are all the Carroll criticizers even talking? I dont know how anyone watching that game can call him lazy or doesnt want to be here.
Kenny is defending his player, which he has shown he will do to a fault. I haven't been a Carroll criticizer. Look at my comments earlier in this thread. It's just getting harder to defend him.
You're kidding right? Where is the trip? You could not possibly get a better angle and replay than the one above. Some dives are questionable. This one absolutely is not. Sorry. Goal or not, a dive is a dive. No goals will make that disappear. That's what you and I are talking about here.
That was an unequivocal dive. 100%. And if he stumbled, well, that's possible worse than a dive. The Liverpool #9 must at least keep his feet to try to make a play on the ball.
Obviously there is no defending Carroll because what he did was basically bottle it. I hope he has learnt a valuable lesson. When a keeper drives himself towards a player moving at pace, with the hope of taking the ball away from his feet the striker knows that a potential trip and heavy fall is coming. What can happen is that the player prepares himself for the contact and to reduce the effect of being tripped he prepares to dive into the trip. This is the evil subconcious at work, and there are many reasons why this emerges in a player. What Carroll seemed to do is misjudge the keepers approach and wrongly prepared himself to be taken out, when the contact was not made he had already lost the general control of the ball and the balance to feel comfortable on his weaker side, so he foolishly took the dive to save looking, in his opinion, a complete idiot airshooting or making a tripshot. This is good reason to explain his anger and the reason for not taking what appeared to you and me an easy chance to put the ball into an empty net. He knows what he did and probably has a different interpretation to everyone else, he no doubt feels that he could have done little about it at the time, he also probably feels that the majority have simplified how he made this mistake. Cue anger. Mistiming a tackle in the penalty box is accepted as part of football, we all question 'why did you do that', but accept that these things happen, little indiscretions like mistiming a dive with a challenge are not so easy to understand.
Frosty's explanation is possible, I'll concede that. My issue isn't just that he dove, but that he even considered anything other than keeping his feet. That dive is going to label him, such that when he is legitimately knicked in the box, the penalty won't be given because of his reputation, which is already accumulating as a complainer (now diver). He has a young career and can't afford to try to be cagey, especially a guy like that, whose glacial footspeed will rarely fool anyone. Our #9 should have one thing in mind -- if he trips me, fine, but I'm not preparing for contact, I'm going to have the ball, round the keeper, and score. The only thing that will deter me is a foul by a keeper/defender. Period. It's the approach that bothers me.
He has height he has the physicality in him, question is, why doesn't he use it? Crouch: Tall, good touch but poor physical presence. Carroll: Tall, Physical, Poor touch (This can improve by a great amount if he put an effort on it) He has the attributes that could make him a force but the complaining the attitude and the lack of any sense is pulling him down. He should face up to any defender but all he looks to do is fall at any contact and not get up. Man the ******** up, forget the transfer fee and do something about it!!!