Anangono career death watch

Discussion in 'Chicago Fire' started by snkscore, Jul 21, 2013.

  1. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That started with Dempsey and Bradley, Edu in Philly did not qualify for the league to pay the transfer (Legally the league pays all transfer fees, but the IO pay back the league except for special occasions, like Dempsey).


    Perhaps, but how much, not enough to get him below the DP limit.

    Can teams bank Allocation money from year to year? or is it use or lose it, meaning that even if we did not use allocation money on Rios, that money would have gone away anyways at the start of 2014? meaning we would still need to trade Berry to get under the budget.

    (then again do not get me started on the dumb Anibaba trade).

    Same as above, is there a regulation on how much can teams carry forward allocation money?

    I do not know.
     
  2. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    From what I remember it has a shelf life. It carries over several years but if unused it eventually disappears.
     
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  3. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    Not a definitive source but it pretty much jives with everything that I remember reading and hearing:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allocation_money

    This bullet point jumps out:

     
  4. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    Here's an old thread with some good links:

    https://www.bigsoccer.com/community/...little-in-allocation-money-right-now.1385550/
     
  5. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes you can buy down a player salary with allocation money (or use allocation to pay the player).

    Example Rios, I forget his salary but it was 800K+ if I remember correctly.

    So lets say the Fire use the budget 385K or what ever the max DP hit was last year), then use another 400K of allocation money to pay him, boom basically Andy has to pay almost no money out of his own pocket.

    I guess the same could have been done with McDonald.

    I think that would be legal under MLS rules, so not money is being stolen, just that Keane type money is not being used.
     
  6. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    We as fans could see it as stolen from our club since there are better ways to use resources to build a team for the long haul. I wouldn't say that's against MLS rules so the league wouldn't see it as stealing, just cheap.

    The league would see embezzlement as theft if that did happen.
     
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  7. Chris M.

    Chris M. Member+

    Jan 18, 2002
    Chicago
    Yep. If Andycakes used allocation money when he could have used his own cash, then he essentially gave away Berey and Rolfe when he didn't have to.
     
  8. Old Man!

    Old Man! BigSoccer Supporter

    RIP Chicago Fire
    Mar 11, 2000
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hauptman could step in and demand his money be used differently if he knew or cared, but it's also entirely possible that his stooge Khosla decided to save his boss money because he thought it'd make him look good. Kind of like the kid at the movie theatre who won't give me the student discount without an ID card. Come on kid, what do you care? It's not your Dad's movie theatre.

    This goes back to the problem with an absentee owner who hires the wrong people.
     
  9. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Well he does not want to use his own money, so he uses allocation money, not really stealing it from the club, just being cheap with his own money.

    Not something fans want to see for sure.

    Time fo follow Firefan2001 and Khan and stop buying tickets to the games?
     
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  10. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    1. Khosla is not involved in player decisions; well that is what he told us.

    2. The kid at the movies is just doing his job.
     
  11. ratdog

    ratdog Member+

    Mar 22, 2004
    In the doghouse
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Except that Dear Leader's deliberately opaque management structure makes it virtually impossible to tell who really does what.

    Insert "good German" reference here.

    Insert "Godwin's Law" reference immediately afterwards.
     
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  12. LocoGueroFutobolista

    Apr 18, 2004
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Oh, that's easy. Just use the simple formula:
    everything good was done by Andi, everything bad was done by someone else.
     
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  13. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    Or promote the issues and see if we can push for positive change. Walking away is an option. Doubling down and criticizing to ask for change is an option as well.

    Spread the word. Andy's business practice needs to change: #HauptmanOut
     
  14. wbo5elguapo

    wbo5elguapo Member

    Feb 26, 2014
    Chicago, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I will say this...

    #AnangonoOut
     
  15. iron81

    iron81 Member+

    Jan 6, 2011
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Not a very good reason to stop buying tickets because this whole "spending allocation money when he didn't have to" thing is a figment of Chris's imagination.
     
  16. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's coming. He'll be gone by the July 1st deadline (hopefully).:)
     

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