An Early Call on the Central Defense Pairing in 2014

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by Maximum Optimal, Feb 11, 2011.

  1. Ghost

    Ghost Member+

    Sep 5, 2001
    Goodson was the best MLS defender other than Parkhurst during his last MLS season.
     
  2. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    What league-wide awards did he get?
     
  3. kokoplus10

    kokoplus10 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 5, 2008
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    To be fair I thought Goodson was very very good while he was in MLS. Was not shocked by his move to Europe or USMNT call-ups/performances at all.
     
  4. sXeWesley

    sXeWesley Member+

    Jun 18, 2007
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If we cannot find better central defenders than Bocanegra this cycle we won't qualify. As for the MLS guys, if any of them actually do develop the way we hope they have plenty of time to go to Europe, so I wouldn't hold it against them for now.

    My absurdly early pairing is Gooch and Opara, once we settle on them we can nickname it Goochopara, has a nice ring to it.

    Then again Goochagbossoumonde sounds even better. I think I will go with that one, Goochream doesn't do it for me.
     
  5. Marko72

    Marko72 Member+

    Aug 30, 2005
    New York
    Ew. ;)
     
  6. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    George John is in his third year. If he's on a 4 year deal then maybe he'll venture overseas after 2012.
     
  7. Ghost

    Ghost Member+

    Sep 5, 2001
    None. I didn't say people picked up on it. Except Bob Bradley, to his credit.
     
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  8. kokoplus10

    kokoplus10 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 5, 2008
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    From what I've seen I don't expect him to have any problems getting a contract in one of the Scandinavian leagues. Question is how high is his ceiling after that?
     
  9. sidefootsitter

    sidefootsitter Member+

    Oct 14, 2004
    Goodson went to Norwegian 2nd division (albeit to a club normally in the TL) after his contract ended in MLS.

    That's not exactly a brimming endorsement.
     
  10. deuteronomy

    deuteronomy Member+

    Angkor Siem Reap FC
    United States
    Aug 12, 2008
    at the pitch
    Club:
    Siem Reap Angkor FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How bout the move from Boulder Rapids Reserves to F. C. Dallas? :D
     
  11. kokoplus10

    kokoplus10 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 5, 2008
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The move itself? No. However, I've always liked his game.
     
  12. Skevin

    Skevin Member+

    Aug 9, 2009
    Colorado
    Club:
    Aston Villa FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Czechia
    Goodson is currently playing at a pretty good club so I'd lock him into our starting XI. I worry that him and Onyewu at CB will be too slow. We should definitely not play an offside trap. What about Jones at CB? He plays CDM so it wouldn't be that different.
     
  13. RalleeMonkey

    RalleeMonkey Member+

    Aug 30, 2004
    here
    I like both of them, but it's hard to picture a Goodson/Gooch pairing. I'd rather have Boca in there for one of them.

    I know, I'm going to take crap for this, but if Wynn ever got his positioning down - basically just learn not to ball-watch - he could be the monster of the midway.

    I know, that's a Big If.

    Ya gotta like that we have prospects. Wish they had another year into the curve in them.
     
  14. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    Goodson got his first cap in '08 after he left MLS.
     
  15. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    He didn't exactly have much hype behind him when he left the league. No league-wide awards, no publications heralding his prowess, and no caps. Bocanegra, Parkhurst, Barrett, Califf, and Nelsen had all those things.

    How about that Ryan Nelsen? Most successful MLS cb export ever.
     
  16. RalleeMonkey

    RalleeMonkey Member+

    Aug 30, 2004
    here
    I thought Nelson played Dmid in MLS. I was wrong?
     
  17. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    You don't win Defender of the Year playing in midfield.
     
  18. deron

    deron New Member

    Jul 25, 2006
    Centennial, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  19. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
  20. RalleeMonkey

    RalleeMonkey Member+

    Aug 30, 2004
    here
    So, that's a smartass way of saying "yes, you were wrong"? Gotta love civility.
     
  21. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #2 (Big strong CB)

    1. Onyewu (FC Twente) 32 (in 2014)*
    2. Goodson (Brondby) 32
    3. Marshall (Crew) 30
    4. Agbossoumonde (Djurgadens) 23
    5. Cameron (Houston) 28
    6. Gonzalez (Galaxy) 26


    #3 (smaller, passer)

    1. Bocanegra (St. Etienne). 35
    2. DeMerit (Vancouver) 35
    3. Opara (S.J. E) 25
    4. Ream (NJRB) 27

    For me

    Next 2 years (gold cup and after)

    Onyewu-Bocanegra (back ups Goodson-DeMerit or Ream)

    For 2014 and most of the elimination/Confederations cup ;)

    Onyewu-Opara (Back ups Boss-Ream)

    Hopefully I will be 75% correct :D
     
  22. Werdman89

    Werdman89 Member+

    May 27, 2008
    Boston, MA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    wtf ignore my post, sorry
     
  23. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    Sticking with the theme of '14.

    1. Gooch. Will be knocking around with a top team in the mid-tier or with a team in a top league.

    2. Whitbred. If he stays healthy, will be bouncing being the Prem and the Championship like Demerit before him.

    3. Boss. The best placed among the young cbs. Two good seasons in Sweden and he can move to a much bigger league.

    4. The MLS guys.
     
  24. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Question.

    If we play Mexico in the Simis or the Final.

    Who do we have that can cover:


    -----------------Hernandez
    Vela--------------------------------Dos Santos


    :confused:

    I think we need people with speed and defending skills at RB and LB not a converted midfielder that goes forward too much (a la Spector)

    What do you all think?

    It is pretty scary that LB is very weak for the USA, Dos Santos will most likly play RAM, that could get ugly.
     
  25. kokoplus10

    kokoplus10 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 5, 2008
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It really depends on how Bob works his midfield. It's gonna have to be a delicate balance between our fullback options and our DM options.
     

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