Altidore not on Jurgen's mind + Special Interview about 2013 and beyond

Discussion in 'USA Men' started by AutoPenalti, Nov 2, 2012.

  1. Spursfan1

    Spursfan1 Member+

    Sep 7, 2010
    Atlanta
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I dont think he should be fired.

    I do think he needs to consider some wing play but I am not sure where from. I know people have mentioned players but I dont see it from those people. I think he has just done ok.

    I think when people call him snake oil salesman and fraud I dislike it. But its ok he seems to get results.

    9-2-2. 10-2-2 would be the best season in USMNT history. While playing 4 teams in the top 15 of fifa rankings. not bad.

    I think we could play better and sometimes he chooses to put players in difficult positions where they do not tend to succeed. but square in round peg etc...

    But I expected that. I dont need to call him names to feel better about it. I knew it from the moment he was hired.

    I have met Jurgen in may of 1995 in London at White hart lane. I was 14 and played in a soccer tournament there. fun times.

    I have not played soccer with him.
     
  2. Spursfan1

    Spursfan1 Member+

    Sep 7, 2010
    Atlanta
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    mmmm...I was there at the cotton bowl in 93 we played panama. won 2-1. it was the gold cup. watched every tournament after that.

    played on an ODP team. etc. I know about the game.

    Sampson tried the 3-5-2 but it got murdered in 98 because we didnt really play with tactics like switching them up and manipulating other teams till recently with bob who is easily the greatest tactician we have ever had.

    I would argue better than Jurgen too.
     
  3. cleansheetbsc

    cleansheetbsc Member+

    Mar 17, 2004
    Club:
    --other--
    soooooooooooo, he didn't call him an 'idiot' like you said:)

    Ooh, this is fun.
     
  4. Spursfan1

    Spursfan1 Member+

    Sep 7, 2010
    Atlanta
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ehhh I just figured it was a manager causing a ruckus. I didnt read the actual quotes. AZ is a decent squad. I see they lost some of their better players. struggling a bit this season.
     
  5. Spursfan1

    Spursfan1 Member+

    Sep 7, 2010
    Atlanta
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I never said that. I agreed with him.
     
  6. GVPATS77

    GVPATS77 Member+

    Aug 18, 2008
    Fullerton, CA
    This comment leads me to believe that you aren't actually watching Jozy's play at the club level. Which then makes me wonder how you can possibly pass judgment or have an informed opinion about why his play has dropped off for the national team.
     
  7. Spursfan1

    Spursfan1 Member+

    Sep 7, 2010
    Atlanta
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I have watched them. ESPN3 and thefirstrow.eu

    jozy has been excellent. I like him a lot. Think he will start in 2014.

    The club meanwhile is midtable and loses to teams they shouldnt.
     
  8. GVPATS77

    GVPATS77 Member+

    Aug 18, 2008
    Fullerton, CA
    OK. So if he has been excellent for his club team, why do you think his production for the national team has dropped off?
     
  9. Spursfan1

    Spursfan1 Member+

    Sep 7, 2010
    Atlanta
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How many games has he played in 2012?
     
  10. AutoPenalti

    AutoPenalti Am I famous yet?

    Sep 26, 2011
    Coconut Creek
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sorry guys, I realized the title was sort of off and unrelated until after I posted this. Many apologizes...
     
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  11. GVPATS77

    GVPATS77 Member+

    Aug 18, 2008
    Fullerton, CA
    Not enough for you to claim fatigue, if that is where you're going with this.
     
  12. GVPATS77

    GVPATS77 Member+

    Aug 18, 2008
    Fullerton, CA
    LOL. This is Big Soccer. Has there ever been a thread that finished as it was started?
     
  13. vaquero28

    vaquero28 Member

    Jul 9, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Incredible!!!!!!!
     
  14. AutoPenalti

    AutoPenalti Am I famous yet?

    Sep 26, 2011
    Coconut Creek
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Good. Point.
     
  15. Friedel'sAccent

    Friedel'sAccent Member+

    Jul 7, 2006
    Providence, RI
    Club:
    Reading FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Happy to change it if you'd like. Feel free to shoot me a PM with a new one.
     
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  16. Spursfan1

    Spursfan1 Member+

    Sep 7, 2010
    Atlanta
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    For the USMNT>
     
  17. BimmerBenz95

    BimmerBenz95 Member+

    Feb 24, 2012
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Was Jozy being classy when someone asked him on Twitter that him and Alex Morgan should get together and said he could do better?
     
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  18. BimmerBenz95

    BimmerBenz95 Member+

    Feb 24, 2012
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    All I see you do is criticize Klinsmann with immature name calling so I wouldn't be talking if I were you.
     
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  19. Spursfan1

    Spursfan1 Member+

    Sep 7, 2010
    Atlanta
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He does have some valid criticisms he just cant help but demand that he be fired or be called a retard fish frog.
     
  20. BimmerBenz95

    BimmerBenz95 Member+

    Feb 24, 2012
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He will have to wait a year and a half for his wish to come true.
     
  21. Spursfan1

    Spursfan1 Member+

    Sep 7, 2010
    Atlanta
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Maybe. We shall see.
     
  22. morange92

    morange92 Member+

    Jan 30, 2012
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    To be honest klinsmann isn't without his criticisms. And honestly we are an extra time goal against a$b and a guatamala game from chirping a completely different tune with klinsmann. That being said, what coach out there is perfect?? Klinsmann hasn't done THAT bad, i mean we are about to have or at least tie the most wins in a single year in USMNT history, as underwhelming as some of those wins are, and as weak as our qualifying group was.

    But the guy is incorporating a more possession based style of play, which has led to some exciting play from our players, and in general we all knew there were going to be some growing pains with klinsmann in year one. I expect this coming year to go a bit more smoothly (or at least i hope)
     
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  23. GVPATS77

    GVPATS77 Member+

    Aug 18, 2008
    Fullerton, CA
    I have never in my life called anyone a fish frog.
     
  24. Foolishness

    Foolishness Member+

    Aug 15, 2012
    I feel like everytime I criticize Klinsmann he redeems himself. His record speaks volumes, despite the play we are seeing. It's hard to fully grasp what's going on. We beat Italy and Mexico away (granted friendlys but you can hardly argue the intensity of those matches) but struggled against A&B? It's silly to disregard the highs and the lows. I think something needs to be done about consistency in play and we'll be alright under him, just need to jump in head first and pray we know how to swim.
     
  25. jond

    jond Member+

    Sep 28, 2010
    Club:
    Levski Sofia
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If he was German you wouldn't care.

    Was Chandler being classy when he quit on our NT in two consecutive summers? No, but you'll find any possible excuse for Chandler's inclusion in our NT while having the opposite approach with Jozy.
     
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