All Falcao, All The Time! - The Transfers and Rumors Thread

It is untrue. The British tabloids are getting rather desperate to sell papers, and gain millions for Britain: buy Spanish players cheaply for them and sell EPL players to Spain at exorbitant prices.

Realistically, where do you think RM get money to pay Levy 60 m? We spent 40m for one player in summer. Do you think RM would be willing to spend over 100m for two rather mediocre players from Spurs in just one year, even though there is a kind of Portuguese connection? Perez has now been forced to look for investors and sponsors overseas to obtain funding. It would be very unlikely that we would spend a lot on transfers unless we sell our highly rated players first, which is in this economic climate very difficult to do.

 

Yeah, I've personally had enough with "players Mourinho likes."

 

While I would rather get a player both the club and manager can agree upon, I agree here. Do not want Bale.

That money could be used on someone who won't be a bench player in two years like say Falcao (I know not too realistic), Neymar, Cavani, anyone...

EDIT: Ah, I'm sure my Hazardinho demands from last summer seem more attractive now considering our options/current form.

 

With the way he's playing I'm kinda glad he went to Chelsea

 

There is no way you think Bale would be better for Madrid than Hazard... right?

Then again, you hate all of my favorites, example; Neymar.

 

Hazard needs time to adapt to the PL. I agree that he hasn't warranted his price tag so far, but I expect him to improve in 2013.

As for Bale, I can only see him coming here if Ronaldo leaves. And I agree with YS that Florentino will want to buy a big name if we miss out on La Decima this season. Personally I still hope for Neymar.

 

The problem with Perez' choosing to buy a big name is that said player will invariably be a CAM or a striker, and those are not areas of concern right now. He needs to be looking at the defense and central midfield because Alonso's clock seems to be ticking.

Modric was a bad buy I feel, not because he's not a good player but because he was intended to fill the Alonso role and he's just not that kind of player. Alonso is the essence of a deep-lying playmaker, Modric is a runner who makes it to the final third more often than not. Sahin was supposed to be the 'new Alonso' but seems like it's not happening for him at Anfield.

I think Vidal would be a great, great buy, if he really wants to splash cash. He's basically a very rich man's Khedira, and versatile enough that you can play him with basically any midfield partner and he can cover up their deficiencies and adapt to their strengths. Unfortunately he's not a glamorous enough player for Perez, so...

 

Modric to me is more of an Iniesta type player than a Xabi. And to get the best out of him he needs a different midfield set-up to Xabi. Xabi plays from deep and gives long passes to the forwards whilst staying behind the play, and so he needs a defensive runner breaking up play ahead of him to be most effective. Modric plays slightly higher up the pitch, links with the players ahead of him with shorter passes (and therefore gets further still up the pitch than Xabi) and therefore needs a holding player behind him to be most effective. I like the signing very much, but he won't be optimally effective in the current set-up.

Not seen enough of Vidal to comment. Have seen enough of Bale to say he'd be good here if Ronaldo left. He's quick, direct and has tremendous end product, whether from his crossing or finishing. I can't think of a better crosser in the world right now.

 

Vidal is a good hardworking midfielder. He isn't the type to sit back though and is more of a box to box type with more flair and eye for goal. I will admit he can make the mistake here and there but he can be pretty dynamic. Another one of my likes that is a 4x4s dislike.

Regarding Bale, great crossing is meaningless when we play with one striker; one of which is Benzema. If Cristiano were to leave (he won't), we'd need to replace his goals not his crossing ability.

Bale has been in the EPL for over a decade. This is Hazard's first 6 months. It is only natural for Bale to be doing better and you can't really use that as a barometer for who could adapt or be usable quicker because you don't know this about Bale.

There is three years, that is the big difference.. especially for a player you don't see much of a playing difference between. Also, if you're going to harp about his price there is no way you could sit here and think Bale is sensible considering his is almost double.

60 million pounds? In what universe or alternate reality?

 

Bale's first couple of years with Tottenham were pretty disastrous too lol, his "rebirth" was sudden and surprising.

 

Just watching Match Of The Day 2. Hazard was responsible for Everton's first goal.

 

Still can't believe Hazard cost 40 million euro while a player like Reus cost only 20...Mind boggling what hype can do to inflate transfer fees.

 

Bale is overhyped and overrated. If you believe the likes of Modric and Bale do brilliantly in Spain, that may mean that your expectation of quality of football in La Liga is pretty low. RM should not turn into a team that plays an EPL type of football, the view shared by many Spaniards. It is sad that Anglo centric views of football encroach into Spain. Bale will not succeed in La Liga at his current levels, he needs to improve his tech and skills. The likes of Silva and Hazard can suit La Liga much better than Bale.

 

Ronaldo is similar. There were far more flashy players than Ronaldo, who focused on perfecting Rabonas and outside of the boot passes (Quaresma comes to mind). Ronaldo worked on perfecting his shooting, and became a phenomenal player, far better than his "more technically gifted" contemporaries.

Bale doesn't have amazing dribbling skills but he is direct, athletic, has a great shot, and delivers quality into the box. We are for better or worse a primarily counter-attacking side, and Bale suits that approach far more than Hazard or Silva. He is slightly over-rated, but that doesn't make him a bad player.

And I like Hazard too, I think he's gonna be a great pick-up for Chelsea when he reaches his peak.

 

Many here arent in love with Ronaldo's very direct style of play and if it wasnt for his goals and influence plenty would want him out. IF Ronaldo does leave, and I am 99.99% sure that will never happen, the last thing I would want is for us to go out and sign a player who can really only run and cross with the occasional great finish. I would prefer Neymar but again, both arent even close to Ronaldo talent, influence, and even marketing wise. Bale would make an excellent fullback for Barcelona, but with teams playing so deep against us, how good will Bale be for us anyways?

 

Oscar has been just as good and you really have under-appreciated Hazard's start which was a phenomenal 3 to 4 weeks.

Let's also not act like one didn't just join a league 6 months ago while the other two have been there for a while (first one six years).

Rumors? If anything this past summer taught us is that Tottenham will get close enough to the rumored amount.

Bale has a deep contract and you are fooling yourself if you think Levy isn't shooting for around 60 million pounds. If you think he is even worth half that amount then, I don't know what more to say. The point is that you can't have it both ways, ripping Hazard for being sold for 40 million while saying Bale is a great alternative when his going rate is almost going to be twice his amount.

 

Modric was just as important to Spurs imo so I don't get why he his price tag is so much higher. I wouldn't want Bale for anything more than 30 MP(which is unlikely). Like YS said, if you are spending 50 ME+, it should be for a regular starter. Is he a 50-60 ME worth upgrade on Di Maria? I'd say last year's Di Maria was better than Bale actually. Better spend that kind of money on Falcao.