Ahnold refers to CA legislators as "girly-men"

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  1. dfb547490 New Member

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    YES!!!

    THIS is why we need men like Schwarzenegger in public office.

    http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm...s_latimes/govcriticizeslegislatorsasgirliemen

    And of course the response from the PC left is predictable...


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  2. Smiley321 Member

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    They'll cut him some slack in San Francisco, they like their beefcake
  3. superdave Member+

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    I'm shocked Arnold wasn't killed when the irony bomb of him referencing other pols' reliance on special interests detonated. Google "Schwarzeneggar" and "Enron" and see what you come up with.

    I'm really tired of all the pols to whom special interests mean, guys that support the other side. There are a few, like, well, McCain and Feingold, who are pretty clean. With the rest of em, it's just a matter of divvying up the list.

    Of course, Arnold can say stuff like this because the conservatively biased media haven't educated the public as to HIS disgusting-yet-typical ties to special interests. So he can say this without getting laughed at.
  4. JeffS New Member

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    This is unfortunate, because I was starting to like Ahnuld as a fairly centrist Republican who was reaching out to Democrats and genuinely trying to get things done, for the good of the state. That has now changed. Ahnuld is now acting like a typical partisan Republican zealot, a la Rush Limbaugh, Michael Savage, Tom Delay, Newt Gingrich, etc etc etc.

    What's bad about the "girlie-men" comment has little to do with anti-PC, even though that was bad enough. Here's what's really bad about it:

    1) The unmittigated hypocricy. Ahnuld has received truckloads of money from special interests. This money from special interests is mostly from corporate donations. Corportations are every bit as much of a special interest as say, unions, or the NAACP, etc.

    2) The total destruction of what was a constructive bi-partisan dialogue for solving the state's budget problems. Ahnuld's imflammatory rhetoric has set the process back substantially and it will take a lot of work to move forward.

    3) His latest budget proposals have swung way to the right, totally gutting public education even further than it already has been, in favor of big corporate special interest. Ahnuld knew full well that this latest budget proposal would be completely untenable for the Democrats (and the children of California), but he went with it anyway thinking he could sway the Democrats by later demonizing them in the media, while knowing his budget plan would screw children, public schools, and school employees (in favor of sweetheart private contracts).

    4) Privatization of public services in other areas of the State have generally proved disasterous, resulting in increased cost, price fixing, corruption, market manipulation and spotty service. Just look at what happened with energy de-regulation and privatization, and the Texas energy suppliers who turned off the generators to manipulate the market. Similar things will inevitably happen if public school services are privatized.

    With his latest nonesense, Ahnuld can go screw himself. I want the level headed centrist back, otherwise, he's toast in the next election.
  5. Roel Member

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    The recall starts now! Arnold has been ineffective, and now he is lashing out.

    I was really pissed at the recall election, not because of my feelings for Davis (repulsive bastard!) but because it was an unmitigated Republican power grab. Governor Gang Bang has done little of value and, like his fellow ineffective Republican W, aligned himself with special interests and is getting his constituency deeper into debt.

    Democrats should just ignore him. He is done.

    BTW, the energy markets in California were never de-regulated. They were re-regulated in favor of the energy distributors.
  6. 655321 New Member

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    It's truly a sad day when we'd rather be entertained by our politicians rather than led by them.
  7. BenReilly New Member

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    True, but the "girly-men" comment was kind of funny.
  8. 655321 New Member

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    I just can't believe that I referred to him as a "politician" :)
  9. bigredfutbol Moderator

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  10. Dr. Wankler Member+

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    Actually, I just assumed you were going for the laugh.
  11. Chris M. Member+

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    I can't believe people are actually offended by this, but to each their own.

    It would have been more impressive to run a newspaper ad in response saying something like:

    Hey, Mr. Governor, here is a list of corporations that are here to Pump (clap) you up!

    [list of companies playing Spin the Pickle in Arnold's shorts]

    Sincerely,

    The Girly Men (and Women -- we actually are part of the legislature too Mr. Governor.)
  12. Roel Member

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    It is not a matter of being offended. The guy is ineffective and he is lashing out.

    Arnold = Loser.
  13. bostonsoccermdl Moderator

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    after reading responses like this:



    It really makes me think that some people/speical interest groups need to grow a thicker skin. There is nothing worse than oversensitive whiners crying foul over an non-event.

    Comments like this give people more ammo to dislike the gay community (in this case) more than they did previously....
  14. 655321 New Member

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    No, it just makes them feel better about it...
  15. Revolt Member

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    Three things:

    Arnold is human. He was on quite a roll for a while.

    I desparately want Arnold to suceed. He may be the only moderate Reep in the State of California. The Reeps need to be a bit stronger - just to provide some counterweight and accountability for some of the whackier Dems.

    Finally, Imagine the outrage if accused the Leg of being from Jersey!
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    Dems respones: Arnold called us girly" WWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!

    The response just proves the Govenator right.
  17. DevilDave New Member

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    Arnold's tactics in trying to get his very late state budget passed shows his shallow perception for politics here in Sactown.

    He's reverted to campaign mode, going to various rallies across the state, urging people to put pressure on their legislators. And basically he's vowed to campaign hard against legislators who have voted against his budget proposals. A lot of posturing, but not a lot of getting stuff done.

    INSTEAD, the Govnah should be here in Sacramento sitting across the table from the "girly-men" and trying to hammer out some sort of budget deal. But it's obvious he's more about show-biz politicking than actual governance.
  18. 655321 New Member

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    Uh, good one, man. :rolleyes:
  19. argentine soccer fan Moderator

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    Before we pass judgement on Arnold's tactics, lets wait and see the results which he ends up getting. If he manages to get something reasonable from the girlie-men, then you will have to admit that his tactics worked. If, however, at the end the girlie-men get what they want, then I supposed you'll be able to say that he has shallow perceptions for politics in Sactown. Or better yet, you'll be able to say that he is the biggest girlie-man of them all.
  20. Revolt Member

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    For the non-Californians, here's a quick re-cap on the situation:

    Ah-nold brokered a bunch of budgetary side deals with the cities/counties, University of California, prison unions, etc., months ago - and cut out the legislature in the process. He had a budget all nailed down and ready to go.

    At the very end, the Dems basically decided to piss on the deal (for some good and some more bad reasons) and here we are.
  21. ElJefe Moderator

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    Well, I wouldn't place too many bets on Der Gropenfuhrer's winning this battle. I'm not familiar with too many state legislatures that will let themselves get pushed around like this. And what are the odds that calling them "girly-men" in the media is going to make them more amenable to working with him on it?

    When all is said an done, in most states, the legislators still have the upper hand, since most of them are likely to still be around when the governor is gone.

    I give George W. Bush very little credit for anything, but I do give him credit for working well with the Democrat-controlled Legislature when he was in Austin. Maybe Ah-nold should get a few pointers.
  22. argentine soccer fan Moderator

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    I would suspect that the democrat-controlled legislature in Texas is a bit different from the democrat-controlled legislature in California.

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