Robbie has played in 12 MLS games and has game winners in 3 of them. Thats decent wouldn't you say? http://columbus.crew.mlsnet.com/med...19670&catCode=game_packages&type=v_free&_mp=1
Rogers and Adu play(ed) midfield and forward in MLS... Rogers brace last year against DC united was with him up top
You would have to be puss to leave the Eredivisie for the MLS as an 18 or 19 year old...assuming that you take the sport seriously and want to bring the cup back to the States. I commend Freddy for sticking it out while Chalana leaves him at the training ground on match day, because I know he'll break the starting eleven next season. We should ask Robbie why he knew he wouldn't.
Glad to hear that we have a Benfica insider posting here. And how can you judge Rogers for not being ready to live on his own in Europe? Being 19 myself, I know that I would have a beast of a time living in a foreign land, different culture, different language. He was just a kid. When he's ready and willing, he'll make the jump back over.
Not an insider, just an optimist. As for being a kid, since we're comparing three of them, I bet Freddy had a beast of a time moving to the US at such a young age and going pro at 14. Robbie even had Michael Bradley to show him the ropes. This makes it easy to judge the kid. I guess your right though. When he's able, he'll make the jump back over.
I am sure the Crew is gald he came back to the states. As for Freddy, he never could do anything while he was in the MLS. It was a smart move for him to make the jump to Europe although he picked the wrong team to play for obviously. Without at least a reserve system he must be losing his game sharpness.
Fair enough. I consider myself an optimist, so I'm we're in the same camp. There don't seem to be enough of us nowadays. I too hope Freddy will start next year. Freddy's family came over with him though, which helps a lot. But you're right, Bradley was there. Bradley was raised in a professional environment (being around the Fire and the NewMedowlands MetroBulls growing up), so I think he was more mature that Rogers was. I just think "puss" is far from the right word to use to describe Rogers.
To be honest, I have been a big fan of Rogers since his 'veen days. I've enjoyed his game, which can't be said about many players. He's definitely not a puss on the field, I'll give him that. I just wish that players of his caliber would do what the rest of the world does: Leave the domestic league, and establish himself at a higher level.
except score 5 goals as a 14 year old, win a MLS cup, be a 2 time All Star.. score 11 goals before the age of 18... but he did nothing in MLS
lol Fredua has you Westerners fooled. I have to repsect the brother and his family for their hustle though.
Look, I think Adu is a terrific player; probably better than Rogers. But Rogers is a better MLS player than Adu was. Yeah, Adu got a lot of accolades, but many of them were undeserved (2004 All-Star? C'mon). Rogers is scoring goals at a much higher rate than Freddy did, and is on pace to eclipse Adu's career MLS goal total by the end of this season... in one-third the number of games. In fact, he could score more goals this season (on pace) than Adu did in his entire 3.5 year MLS career. He's the most aggressive attacking player on the best team in MLS right now, and he's putting in the defensive work. He's currently leading the league in shots and game-winning goals, and 2nd in shots on goal. Yeah, Rogers is older; that helps. But he's also pretty damn good. He's been a positive influence in most Crew games this year (I can only remember one bad performance out of 6 games so far). I think whip is crazy, but so is the idea that Rogers is chopped liver. I think it's indisputable that - so far - he's a more influential player in MLS than Adu was.
This article speaks to that a bit: http://columbus.crew.mlsnet.com/new...505&content_id=155285&vkey=news_mls&fext=.jsp
see... this is fair... and if others have read my posts... I think Rogers' talent is right at the level of Adu and Altidore... he is a BIG time talent... and Rogers may eventually be better in MLS than Adu was... I have no issues saying that... but their situations were different... Adu played with one of MLS' all time greats (Moreno), the MVP (Gomez), and other high quality players... on what is arguably the most talented team in MLS the past 4 years... the Crew is not exactly on that level... not dissing Rogers, but it isnt... and Adu is a lot younger than Rogers (which you pointed out)... in the end, these two guys are not in competition... not going against each other for the same position... and they are two supremely talented players... lets celebrate them
But you seem to be discounting the fact that Adu is 2 years younger than Rogers. You can't really compare their MLS careers. Adu was in MLS from 15 to 18, Rogers from 18 onward. You have to compare them at the same point in their careers. Adu at 18, Rogers at 18. Rogers at 18 was playing far less at Heerenveen than Adu at 18 for Benfica.
The reality is Freddy and Robbie are friends off the field, have mutual respect for each other and enjoy playing together.
That's entirely too radical. Nowak would never allow that much talent on the field at the same time. His head would explode. I think he'll probably tell Adu and Rogers to stay home just so he's not faced with that predicament. I for one am looking forward to seeing a Summer Olympics full of Chad Barett and Charlie Davies. They both have way better resumes than either of those guys...
Adu is a better player overall Rogers has had more impact in MLS Rogers played/plays in MLS at an older age than Adu Freddy has done more in Europe than Rogers has Plusses and minuses for them both. Those seem to be the facts. In the end...I'll take them both on the US Youth teams in different roles (Rogers as a wing player, Adu as a central player either attacking mid or second forward).
i concur.... If Charlie Davies or Chad Barrett are on this roster im going to roundhouse my grandmother in the face.