Do you guys think this format would be better for Copa America than the one currently used? First, no guest teams. Only CONMEBOL nations participate. Two groups, five teams each. Each team plays each other once during the group stage. Due to uneven number, each team would have one matchday "off" providing for five matchdays per group, four matches per team. Top three teams in each group advance to the next round. Quarterfinals: QF1: Group A #2 vs Group B #3 QF2: Group A #3 vs Group B #2 Semifinals: Group A #1 vs Winner QF2 Group B #1 vs Winner QF1 Winners of these games go to Championship, Losers go to Third Place Game The four teams who get eliminated in the Group Stage will have played 4 games. The two teams who get eliminated in the Quarterfinals will have played 5 games. The two teams who won their group will have played 6 games. The two teams who won in the Quarterfinals will have played 7 games. ---- It seems like this format would be more competitive and overall better than a 12 team competition. What do you guys think?
If I'm not mistaken old Copa Americas utilized a similar system. It consisted of two groups of 5 teams. Top two of each group qualify to a final group stage where they all play one another. Team with the most points is the Copa America champion. In fact, this system is still utilized for the under-15, under-17, under-20 and (when it's played) under-23 South American championships. Why this system (or its variations) was ever abandoned is beyond me... I personally find it more appealing than a round robin format.
Interesting. If there were only to be CONMEBOL sides i'd like this format you suggest, also the smaller teams would always get at least one more match to play. And have like the 1st of Group A face the 2nd of Group B, and the 1st of Group B face the 1st of Group A in the semi-finals, the winners going into the final, and the losers playing the 3rd pos match. Also i think it'd be a great idea to have it every 4 years, the year after the World Cup, like now in 2011, then 2015, 2019, etc(Then again i don't know if this is what they'll do from now on). The difference with the U17 and U20(the U23 is no longer played) is that for the 2nd round the best 3 of each group qualify and all play eachother the best 4 qualify to the World Cup in the U20's ones the year before the olympic games the best 2 qualify to the Olympic games too.
Probably if you have some qualification round, the level of the final cup will be improved. When you have something guaranteed, you don't feel the same things. 1° Period - Every 4 years, only Conmebol teams. - Year after World Cup (2007, 2011, 2015, ...) 2° Qualification Round during 2010. - Teams 7°-10° of the Conmebol WC 2010 Qualifiers. - Use FIFA official dates for playing the games. - One group, two rounds, six matchdays. - 1° & 2° place qualified to Copa America, 3° & 4° place eliminated. 3° Host Decided by Rotation among 5 groups on 2 countries. - Argentina/Chile 2011 (Arg 1987 - Chi 1991: 20 years of the last cup) - Brazil/Uruguay 2015 (Bra 1989 - Uru 1995: 20 years) - Bolivia/Paraguay 2019 (Bol 1997 - Par 1999: 20 years) - Ecuador/Peru 2023 (Ecu 1993 - Per 2004: 19 years) - Colombia/Venezuela 2027 (Col 2001 - Ven 2007: 20 years) 4° Copa America 2011 - 8 teams divided in 2 groups of 4 teams. - Semifinals. - 3° place game. - Final. - Every country host 1 group and 1 semifinal game. - Final game and 3° Place game will be played one for each country.
Kinda pointless to have a qualifying round when it's just 10 teams, 12 even if you include 2 from CONCACAF. Also a Copa América doesn't need a co-hosting either.
i think we should have a copa america every 2 years, like african nations..... in january .... why can africans have those priviliges? 2010, 2012, 2014, 2016, instead of 2011, 2015, 2019 starting in the mid od january... example jan 16,17,18 first fixture jan 19,20,21 second fixture jan 22,23,24 third fixture jan 26,27 semifinals (best three teams, and best second place) jan 29 final that's it
african teams can have all their players for the CAN, while in southamerica some teams from europe start to complain
dont forget that france and england have lots of players from africa and it wouldnt hurt some clubs from poland, russia, ukraine(dont forget those clubs dont have any official matches until marchj) and in those leagues there are some players from southamerican teams hernan rengifo(lech poznan - poland) marcelo moreno(shaktar donestk - ukraine)
What's so wrong about guests? I don't mind them as long as they're from Concacaf because the name of the cup still makes sense with them. And it's about damn time we get over this thing with the Mexicans. They're pretty much de la casa by now.
Nah it shouldn't. Also it's a good idea to host it on the year after the World Cup, so it doesn't clash with other things like olympic games and the Confederations Cup.
La razon por la cual equipos de Conmebol ya no son invitados a la Copa Oro es porque hay sufficientes equipos en Concacaf. Ese no es el caso en Conmebol donde nada mas hay diez.
How about taking Surinam and Guyana to Comebol? that would give you 12 teams, if you also take French guyana then you would have 13 and no need for a guest (is french guyana an independent country or part of france like guadalupe?)
Suriname and Guyana didn't want to join CONMEBOL at the time i don't think they'd want now, and French Guaiana's federation is a branch of FFF, clubs from French Guaiana even compete in early rounds of Coupe de France. Note however that they're members of CONCACAF and CFU, but not of FIFA.
well they managed to stage Copas americas for many many many years with only 10 team and in some cases less teams so thats hardly a reason 10 is fine, its a Conmebol tourney dont see why we are the only ones with guests
Maybe comebol can "bribe" them by helping with their local legues, help building stadiums. Maybe in the future there will be 11 teams anyways, If the Maldives ever get independence from Brtitain, and Argentina does not make them part of their country.
It's CONMEBOL we're talking about, it's more likely they'd help them if they remain on CONCACAF then if they join CONMEBOL. I think you mean Malvinas(Falklands), Maldives are in Asia and are active members of AFC, i guess that scenario happened CONMEBOL wouldn't pick them, the possible scenarios there would be very conflictive.
You are correct I meant Falklands, yes can you imagine the first Argentina vs Falkand Islands game? The political storm that would develop with that game! lol!
A confederation with only 10 teams, but all of them strong, is better than a confederation with 50 teams, 20 of which are filler (minnows).
What about a confederation with 30 teams, 10 of which are filler (minnows)? Then again if comebol and concacaf became 1 confederation you would get something like 15 strong teams and 20-25 minnows. I do not see that happening, it would be almost as bad as the AFC.
