Surprised to see that there isn't a thread up yet, despite everything that's been going on. Full D-Day Anniversary coverage on Yahoo! News Germany is participating in the ceremonies for the first time this year. Also, BBC has a great site on WWII: www.bbc.co.uk/history/war/wwtwo/index_special.shtml
That's like asking the rapist to the wedding of his victim. Disgusting. My grandad is rolling in his grave no doubt.
Just gotta throw a post in here saying that I can't imagine myself not thinking of D-Day each June 6 for the rest of my life. As a student of history, I can't really help it. As a grandson of WWII vets, it hits as close to home as it can to someone my age. May the sacrifices of those who served to defeat the Axis powers during the war never be forgotten.
4 posts all day?Sad,really. In memory of the boys from Bedford ,the paratroopers of St.Mere Eglise,the UDT and Army demolition teams,the North Shore regiment,the 50th Airborne,... and the Navy who won Omaha Beach. RIP guys.
Weekends are slow around here, Russ. I have yet to read Stephen Ambrose's Citizen Soldiers, but I hugely enjoyed Cornelius Ryan's The Longest Day as well as the movie of the same name. I also recommend Six Armies in Normandy by John Keegan. I had to drive like 800 miles back to Seattle from Contra Costa County in 2000, but I stayed up late the night before to watch The Longest Day. And when I go to WC 2006 in Germany, I'm going to try and retrace my dad's World War II footsteps. He wasn't involved in D-Day, but Normandy is a must-visit on my list.
Nice to see the respect from the few folks who bothered to reply. True heros these guys, we truly have them to thank for the 'freedoms' we take for granted today. RIP the Allied heroes. And a special mention to the somewhat forgotten "Empire" soldiers of the UK forces, Jamaica, Nepal, India et al. Thank you and God bless.
Decdication to the Canadians who fought and died on Juno Beach. Such a shame that the public and corperate Canada has more respect for the veterans than the Liberal gov't. RIP guys.
All the males in my family went with my grandfather to the 55th Anniversary. We had planned to go to the 60th but my grandfather was unable to hang on til now, as he passed away in March. Probably the most influential experience of my life was watching him go to the graves of his men at Colleville-Sur-Mer. The opening scene of Saving Private Ryan is a good portrait of what that experience was like for my family. Also special was when he was the wreath-bearer for the 2nd Division at the International Ceremony. He didn't tell too many stories as he didn't like to talk about it. I learned more about some of the things he did by reading the reports of his actions that earned him medals. These men were and are incredible and their contributions to the world are immesurable. It's unfortunate that this thread has less posts than many others that are full of inane drivel, but that's how it is around here. As for Chirac inviting Germany and snubbing Italy, it's disgusting and shows what little class the man has.
A bullet kills a 17 year old German boy just as quickly as it kills a 17 year old American, British or Commonwealth boy. I must admit that the D Day anniversary in New Zealand is not a huge day because we celebrate those who survived and mourn those who made the ultimate sacrifice on ANZAC day - April 25th (http://www.nzhistory.net.nz/Gallery/Anzac/Anzacday.htm) Least we forget.... Crowdie
The young as time progresses will see WWII and the sacrifices made as less and less reality and more of a hollywood tale, only through remembrance can we pass down the true horrors and heroic sacrifice of our forefathers. Ronald reagan once addressed the UN and said something along the lines of "if the earth was attacked by an alien culture we would all join together". Well it happened not in that way but in the sense that prejudice was forgotten at least somewhat (lets hope not temporarily) and all on the allied side pitched in to fight evil, is it not self evident that the good of man transcends race and religon? I believe so and our heroic forefathers are there to prove it. Here's one hero: http://www.cccoe.k12.ca.us/pc/wwii.htm RIP Dorie Miller. From the UK side: http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/war/wwtwo/colonies_colonials_01.shtml This is why i feel, regardless of the damn media that every man who sacrificed should be given our due respect it should be known that our bretheren Black, white, whatever are the reason we are conversing freely here today. Would some racist b&stard even be here without these heroes fighting evil? I think not. RIP to all. Never Forget.
Don't sully this thread with your non sequiturs, this is rememberence and respect of our forefathers who fought the NAZI WAR MACHINE not kids, it just ain't appropriate for Germany to be present and i know my grandad who was more man than you'll ever be would feel the same. Don't respond to me because I'm gonna take it personal, comprende?
Feh.Explain the Reagan pissing contest then... Ambrose is a must read.Keegan is good as well. I want to go to Normandy someday.Any free person should. MSNBC is doing a "you are there" recreation right now with Lester Holt as anchor.Interesting.
A lot of vets still don't like seeing the Germans getting invited. Canadian vets don't like it since Germany troops murdered Canadian POW's during the Normandy battles. The fact that Italy, a country that changed sides, didn't get invited seems to smack of politics.
I know my late Grandfather, who was part of the British navy invasion of Italy, would feel uncomfortable with the German presence but he would also understand that Germans have the right to mourn their dead - the dead Germans had mothers and children so why shouldn't the Germans mourn their dead as well. New Zealanders and Australians travel to Gallipoli in Turkey every year to mourn the ANZACs who died there. The Turkish people mourn their dead at the same time and while there are separate ceremonies for the Turks, Aussies and Kiwis there is also a combined ceremony. The releations between the ANZAC nations and Turkey has improved as we start to understand each other. This is something positive to come from the horror that is war. No dice. If you post then you can expect a response.I understand that some people don't want the Germans to be there, and that is your right, but it is also my right to believe that we should use these opportunities to better understand each other. Crowdie
With all sincerity I thank your Grandfather for his sacrifice. Do not however tell me what my family must do for some PC hand holding love in. You have Zero credibility to dictate the agenda of the annual respect for your betters (as they are mine) I know what my Grandads wishes would be.
While his contribution pales in comparison to those of the soldiers at Normandy, you can't talk about D-Day without Robert Capa's photographs. http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2001949047_dday06m.html
Germany's presence at the D-Day celebration is further validation that the sacrifices were justified. Also don't forget Ezekiel 18:20
As I thank your Grandfather for his. I am not telling you what to do. You have your opinion and I have mine. Both opinions are valid as they are opinions and nothing more. Crowdie