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Discussion in 'FIFA and Tournaments' started by EvanJ, Jun 3, 2011.

  1. goliath74 Member

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    What about Uzbekistan?
          
  2. Gold is the Colour Member

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    Personally I think there is a much bigger chance of one of Aus/ Korea/ Japan missing out or at least only making the playoff than the same thing happening to USA or Mexico.
  3. BocaFan Member+

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    Certainly. There is less room for error in Japan's group with 2 favorites but only 2 automatic qualification spots.

    CONCACAF has 2 favorites and 3 automatics (with the 4th place team being big favorites to qualify too should it be either USA or Mexico).
  4. EvanJ Member

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    The bottom of http://qualify2014.blogspot.com/ lists the countries that are still alive, eliminated, and did not attempt qualifying.
    From June 3 to June 6 four countries in Oceania will be eliminated (the OFC Nations Cup Group Stage is June 1 to June 6).
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  5. ZeekLTK Member

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    I know this was months ago, but some of the comments on the last page... lol

    Do you play the sport? Games can get out of hand very easily, especially if there is a discrepancy in talent. Last season in my own local summer league (very wide range of "skills") we made the playoffs as the #7 seed, playing the #2 seed in the first round. We took a 1-0 lead midway through the first half but barely held on to reach half time at 1-1. Then they scored to go ahead like right at the start of the 2nd half and we just fell apart and ended up losing like 7-1. lol That can just as easily happen when you have a team like Indonesia playing against a much more talented team like Bahrain - especially when Bahrain KNOWS that it needs to score as many goals as possible, and Indonesia doesn't really have anything to play for.

    The last matchday is the perfect time for that. You want to give your players a chance to play a real match where the opponent is actually trying (desperately) to win - you can't replicate that type of situation in a friendly. If you are already eliminated from advancing (which doesn't usually happen until the last couple matchdays anyways) then you might as well try out new players. What is the point of playing just to help someone else to qualify? That other team should take care of business themselves, so that they don't need your help!


    But PS: Qatar scored a late goal against Iran and eliminated Bahrain anyways, despite this scoreline. lol
  6. BocaFan Member+

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    meh, it boils-down to professional integrity and pride for me. Either they were bought off or without any dodgy/illegal motives they just decided to field a weak lineup to give a bunch of scrubs some ...errr.. "big-match experience". Either way they lacked professional integrity.
  7. druryfire Member

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    In fact they played a youth team in preparation for an Asian youth competition, they did it because they had failed to qualify and the team's generally.
  8. BocaFan Member+

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    So you'd be okay with Sunderland fielding a reserve side against Man Utd 3 weeks ago and losing 10-0 allowing Man Utd to win the Premiership despite Man City's dramatic 3-2 win over QPR?
  9. zhuangzi Member

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    Another old post resurrection.

    Uzbekistan have, for most of the '00s and the present, looked like possibly doing something like getting to the Asian Cup final or breaking into the automatic qualification spots. But they haven't actually done it yet.
  10. druryfire Member

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    Yeah.

    Indonesia can do what they want with their selection. Why do they have to put the interest's of anyone else ahead of themselves?

    Same with your scenario, why would Sunderland put the interests of Man City ahead of there own? What you use as an example never happened. But look at Indonesia. They were out of the reckoning, they have youth championships to prepare for and an ASEAN Cup to prepare for, something they have never won which members of ASEAN point out to them all the time. They had a team of failures so have broken it up and are trying to bring the next generation through. And this is Indonesia we are talking about, hardly a world player to begin with. If England for example did the same thing in the same shoes as Indonesia, it would be looked at differently, in fact people would probably praise it.
  11. EvanJ Member

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    FIFA mistakenly says Samoa are eliminated. They would need to make up 16 goal differential on the last matchday but are not eliminated. Fiji and Papua New Guinea could be eliminated next. After four OFC eliminations this week, the next eliminations will be six in CONCACAF in September and/or October.
  12. TrueCrew Member+

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    Sorry, noob question here. But is head to head the tiebreaker, or is it GD? By your post, I'm assuming the latter. But where do we find the documentation saying what the tie-breakers are for each confederation. It's one of the most bloody important things, but isn't included in the format docs that I can see.
  13. uuaww Member

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    it is confusing. In confederation cups (euro, ANC, etc.) they often use head to head. but in the World Cup and qualifying, it is exclusively GD.
  14. Timanfaya Member

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    It's the same for all confederations' groups, per Article 16 of the regulations.
    http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/organisation/documents/index.html
  15. bill0 Member

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    133(?). Papua New Guinea

    Lost 1-2 to New Zealand although they weren't knocked out until just now when Fiji and the Solomon Islands drew 0-0.
  16. JLSA Member

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    Bad result for the Solomon Islands

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  17. zhuangzi Member

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    Yeah, if NZ beat them Fiji could go through on GD if they beat Papua.
  18. JLSA Member

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    They do have the advantage of playing later - so knowing what they need to do. But if either match was more than a one-goal margin then they are out (if they end up equal on points) - given (desperate) Fiji should beat (eliminated) PNG by at least two, all that means is they will know they need a result against New Zealand. Things will only be complicated if Fiji win by exactly 1 goal.

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  19. zhuangzi Member

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    Fairly embarrassing for the Solomons if that happens. Making 3rd round is the mark of a respectable OFC side.
  20. JLSA Member

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    Even more so given Fiji lost the hosting rights to the Solomons due to a dispute between OFC officials and the military regime in Fiji.

    Anyway - Samoa is out now, beaten 9-0 by New Caledonia.

    Vanuatu will be out next unless they beat Tahiti by at least 5 goals (in which case Tahiti will be gone).

    J
  21. maizenblue07 New Member

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    133. Papua New Guinea
    132. Samoa
  22. maizenblue07 New Member

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    131. Vanuatu
  23. EvanJ Member

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    130. Fiji

    Papua New Guinea scored in the 85th minute to get a 1-1 draw with Fiji. New Zealand, Solomon Islands, Tahiti, and New Caledonia advance in OFC.
  24. wufc Member

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    Based on what I've seen from New Zealand, they could get knocked out of this tournament.
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  25. zhuangzi Member

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    They've been pretty underdone, don't know why.

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