2016 Presidential Primaries. (Bring out your dead).

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  1. TheSlipperyOne

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    She said a while ago that she only wanted to do it for Obama's first term. I could see her sticking around for one more year to transition in someone new.
     
  2. That Phat Hat

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    I've heard rumblings that John Kerry was in for SoS, but I have no idea how serious it was.

    Still, if she wants to run in 2016, she can't stay, right? My understanding is that a Secretary of State can't campaign.
     
  3. That Phat Hat

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    I'm not comfortable making a guarantee, but if the nation gets over Bush fatigue (and it clearly hasn't), his combination of conservatism, pedigree and Latino-ness will make him really attractive to the GOP.
    For what it's worth, post by Anthony in November 2010, after the GOP asswhupping:
     
  4. yossarian

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    More than a couple of the conservatives who post here (conspicuously absent now, btw) speculated about Obama getting primaried. They sooooooo wanted to pin the Carter label on him. It was, not surprisingly, dumb.
    As for the topic at issue... can Hermain Cain seriously be on that list? Really? Don't get me wrong....I'd love it....especially if it meant that Sgt. Schultz and MtMike would return to tell us once again how Cain was our "worst" nightmare....but really?
    o_O
     
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  5. cleansheetbsc

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    Can the Dems really start mobilizing candidates until they all know what Hillary's plan is? I would imagine the Clintons will control the large money, at least for the next 18-24 months.
     
  6. That Phat Hat

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    Yeah, though I thought Anthony was prescient in pulling out "Forward" from Feingold's speech, though in not the way he thought.
     
  7. Dr. Wankler

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  8. TheSlipperyOne

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    My mom has met Schweitzer a couple of times and just fawns all over him as a Democrat.
     
  9. The Gribbler

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    She might stick around for a year more, take a break, and then declare in early 2015. We'll have another special election for Senate in Mass because John Kerry is probably Obama's guy for that cabinet spot.
     
  10. tomwilhelm

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    Obama should nominate Huntsman, just to tweak everyone off a little more... ;)
     
  11. TheSlipperyOne

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    Well, he'd probably be a pretty good pick.
     
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  12. JohnR

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    Fish was Cartering Obama from Day 1.

    It was wishful thinking of course but I could see the reason for the comparison. Two nice-guy national newbies facing difficult economies. But Obama wasn't held hostage in the Middle East, he shot his man dead. And Romney wasn't Ronald Reagan, not by a long shot, and Obama damn well knows how to run a campaign.

    So nope the label didn't work.
     
  13. tomwilhelm

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    He'd be a great pick. Huntsman's best shot at the Presidency is to get into (yet another) high profile position that highlights his leadership, foreign policy chops, and innovative moderate approach, wait for the GOP to bottom out and be the Republicans' Bill Clinton in 2020.
     
  14. Dr. Wankler

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    They sure as hell tried (and are probably still trying) with Benghazi Benghazi Benghazi...
     
  15. JohnR

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    OK I defended the tactic of Cartering Obama, but the Benghazi tactic was silly I still don't understand the argument -- we're supposed to have better armory at our embassies? we're not supposed to have an embassy in Libya? -- and if I don't understand it, then surely most Americans did not either. Four people dead somewhere ... yeah so?
     
  16. Chris M.

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    Believe it or not, in Todd Akin's "concession" speech, he was actually talking about how Obama could have had a seal team in there in 30 minutes, but he pulled back and let those people die. I think that is the far right argument.
     
  17. tomwilhelm

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    Was it really any more silly than Too Fast, Too Furious?

    Or eliminating welfare work requirements?

    Or Solyndra for that matter?

    There are plenty of reasonable criticisms out there of Obama. But a paltry few were ever made by the GOP before and during the election. Now that it's over, how long until the next obstructionist talking point utterly ignorant of reality grinds any hope at actually addressing our problems as a nation into the dust? With FOXNews short circuiting the healing process, how long does this go on?
     
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  18. CrewDust

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    The Reps field looks a lot stronger
     
  19. raza_rebel

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    I was talking to a friend about the 2016 race. He noted that the strongest GOP candidates were usually governors. Republican Party has a particular affinity for governors. I am guessing that most of the stronger candidates for the GOP will be governors.
     
  20. Transparent_Human

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    Can Kerry please just stay in the senate. I really don't want Scott Brown to be in the senate anymore. And I guarantee if there is an opening he'll run again.
     
  21. Matt in the Hat

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    I thought he was one of those moderate Republicans that Dems always cry about missing. He's far more Susan Collins than Jeff Sessions
     
  22. Matrim55

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    Look at his voting record, Matt.
     
  23. Matt in the Hat

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