yea i was worried a couple times but somehow he managed to catch up with those quick kuwaiti forwards. the problem is we dont have a suitable ball winner in the works. perhaps Park Jong-woo could develop into that role. Kim Doo-hyun i thought was fine as well but he lacked the stamina to play at the moment. i dont see him being much of a factor once Kim Jung-woo isnt injured.
That's what infuriated me. There was no reason at all that KDH should have been playing. And equally, there was no reason at all that KBK was not playing. Kim Sangsik was close to being the goat 3 minutes into the 2nd half when he headed the ball perfectly into the path of Al Sulaimain who hit the crossbar.
I don't think CKR was replaced for his record alone though. When you read the FIFA report it's not bad as it's devoid of any emotion.
1. No KSY to start 2. No KBK to start 3. No other CM starting 4. KDH started 5. Too many forwards. Either start LDG or PJY. Not at the same time with two other forwards. CKH had plenty of time to prepare and present a balanced squad. Yet he failed to do that and had to make obvious substitutions to correct his initial mistakes. PS - we need to play HJH. KTH and LJS together is 2 years too late.
I dunno what you're arguing since it makes no sense. But I'll elaborate my viewpoint. We only have two defenders who are in Europe at any competitive level, and one is going to be old by '14. We have a bunch of forwards who are young and as much as I like some of them, untested and play at spots where we have better players like PCY. Adding our out of form / match fitness youngsters would have done nothing. What happened in the past is irrelevant. If we can't make some strides forward in the basic departments like defending and some semblance of simple tactics, we will get spanked by whoever we play given that minnows ran all over us for a half. We've played disjointed as a NT for a very long time despite playing some very weak competition. Despite having a fair amount of preparation compared to many international fixtures with players who had played together in the k-league, we still played terrible. If this were an aberration or confluence of injuries, then fine. But none of those are the case.
Not sure that I agree with this. There are some Koreans playing in Europe that probably wouldn't have made it to the KNT have they been playing in Korea. For instance, Ji Dong-won. Should Ki continue to play as DMF as he did under Jo Gwang-rae, I can't really say he's better than Kim Sang-shik at that position. Kim Du-hyeon today was a mistake and he needs more time. Choi Kang-hee will probably use Ha Dae-sung instead. It's blasphemy to think that Kim Bo-gyung is better than Ha Dae-sung. Kim Bo-gyung is a starter for a shite J2 side. Ha Dae-sung is a starter for arguably the best team in Asia. This is a difference in class.
1) KBK was called up by the olympic team and wouldve been surplus 2) we have Kim Chi-woo who has played well for the KNT and FC Seoul in the past as well as Han Sang-woon who really deserved a call up its better for him to focus on the olympics anyway and the upcoming season
Surplus to what? We needed the best available, in-form footballers on the pitch tonight. Do you trust Kim Chi Woo? I certainly don't. I don't understand the "let's go w/ shite experience, CKH was dealt a bad hand" argument.
I wonder how much police team actually trains and has real competitive games. KDH was a definite questionable selection.
I think other than number 1 and 4, your points are invalid. 2. Kim Bo-gyung doesn't deserve to start for the KNT. He needs to prove himself over the likes of Yoon Bitgaram, Ha Dae-sung, and Nam Tae-hee. 3. So, I guess Kim Sang-shik and Kim Du-hyeon aren't CMs? 5. Didn't realize a two-top was considered too many forwards. One of them scored, by the way.
i agree with you on most points but that last parts incorrect. well 2 years incorrect. Ha Dae-sung is good but KBK is far better now. hes the catalyst for our U-23 side and plays the #10 role at his club after only 1 season. scored like 8 or 9 goals as well. he is the future of the KNT just depends where you want to use him. most people want him to play left like PJS but i prefer he play behind the stiker like at his club. either way KBK at this moment has more upside to HDS.
this was our formation in theory -----------LDG--------- HSW------PJY-------LKH ------KDH-----KSS------ PWJ--LJS----KTH-----CHJ This is how we actually played -----LDG-----PJY-- ------------------LKH--CHJ HSW------KDH------------- PJW-------KSS------------ ------LJS----------KTH----- See how lopsided we were w/ four strikers playing simultaneously? There was no playmaker b/c KDH was invisible. No wonder why we got cut up like swiss cheese.
KBK hasn't played J2 for the past 2 years. And YES, he's clearly better than the others that we have. He's the only true no 10 we can rely on at this point.
Simply put... Lucky that Kuwait couldn't connect with their early chances and KDH was a poor choice. Would LBK have made a much bigger impact then HSW? No J-Leaguers... Maybe CKH has something against that.
yes i would trust Kim Chi-woo hes a very good player we just had no room for him on the squad with PJS and LCY on the wings. also we seem to neglect our sangju players like their skills suddenly get sucked out of them. hes a quality player that can play left back or left wing. not all experienced players did well in particular Choi Hyo-jin. give the manager a chance to implement his system.
This is RIDICULOUS. NTH? He plays with the camels in the desert and is clearly not ready. YBGR? KBK has eclipsed him as the better club and KNT performer for the past year. HDS? KBK is already better than him and more versatile.
Btw, this is a taboo topic I suppose, but I thought that was a clear penalty on Choi HJ in the 3rd minute of the match. If it came a bit later in the first half, I think we would have ate one right there.
lolololol We'll just have to agree to disagree. All these players in mention are scrubs with minute differences. Agree that Kim Bo-gyung would've been the better option than Kim Du-hyeon although I am highly doubtful that he would've made a difference at all.
i didn't watch a lot of Kim Bo-kyung but from what i've seen at AFC2011. He made a huge difference for Cerezo Osaka. Then he got injured and i'm not sure what happened to him after all that. CKH didn't smile or celebrate for both of our goals lol.
penalty looked 50/50 to me but the ref was right there so idk. maybe in the EPL it wouldve been called but not a CL match.
Just got back to watch highlights. Holy crap we sucked. Ki... was just phenomenal. I don't think I've ever seen a single player make that big of a difference before. ................... I really don't want to start an argument, but this makes no sense.. after KSY and LCY, KBK is the best we have.
Ki has always been pivotal for our team. I didn't realize it until LCY got injured. Ki is a player you can build a team around. he's world class He distributes the ball really well. He makes our game flow. His passing is so good that our MFers don't need to stress about their 1st touch or their next move. This is usually the mark of a good Holding MF. They make the game easy for their teammates.
